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<p>^Rather small number to be making such a large assumption</p>

<p>As for me, I probably couldn’t get into UF, even if I did, I’ve been to the campus and I couldn’t find myself living there for 4 years.</p>

<p>I got accepted to FSU but I don’t see anything about scholarships. Is it supposed to be under financial aid? I don’t see anything there because I had to send in a form.</p>

<p>Also, I am working to make the $100 housing deposit and I get paid Friday. If I wait that long, will I get a summer dorm?</p>

<p>what form did you have to send in? The scholarship award should be under the box labeled “Enrollment Information”. If there is nothing between Enrollment Information and Admission Deposit, there might not be one offered.</p>

<p>Its not that everyone who gets into UF, goes, but, at least in my experience, the brightest go to UF over FSU. There are obviously some exceptions and of course the die hard Seminoles who would choose FSU over Harvard.</p>

<p>The joke around our school is that, “What do all UF and FSU kids have in common?” and the answer “an FSU acceptance letter”. Not to bash FSU at all, but has anyone heard of a case where someone got into FSU and not UF when they applied to both?</p>

<p>^UF has thousands of more applicants, it’s only that the one with more applicants is more selective</p>

<p>Education wise, there isn’t much of a difference, if any at all</p>

<p>When I attended Florida State the joke was:</p>

<p>Q: What do all FSU students have in common?</p>

<p>A: They all got into UF.</p>

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<p>It is not just US News, it is other rankings, too, like Forbes. But even disregarding the rankings, I think it is fair to say that you will find more people who think UF is better academically than FSU and the admissions stats prove their admits have higher GPAs and test scores.</p>

<p>My initial comment that sparked this debate was meant to give a deferred student hope about a possible admission. I really don’t think it is a coincidence that FSU has 2 admit dates - 1 before the UF admissions and 1 after. However, I wasn’t trying to start an FSU v. UF debate. My daughter is very excited and proud to have been admitted to FSU. If she enrolls, I am certain she will get a fine education and have a great time, too.</p>

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<p>That may have been a joke that was popular at FSU, but was it true? I am a native Floridian and I know what it was like when I was a high school kid. When I was applying to college, UF was my safety school. Back then, all Florida public universities sucked by my standards at least. Anyone with half a brain went out of state. </p>

<p>However, even way back then, the top kids in my class applied to UF as our safety school. We didn’t even consider FSU or USF and UCF I think was called something else but even if I am wrong about that, it was so far down on my radar screen, that I didn’t know much about it.</p>

<p>Back when I was a kid, the smart kids went out of state, the kind of smart kids went to UF, the not too dumb kids went to FSU and the dumb kids went to USF. The really dumb kids went to community colleges.</p>

<p>Things are different now. The tuition inflation of private universities has far outpaced increases in income. Add Florida Pre-Paid and Bright Futures to the mix and voila, Florida public universities are now nationally ranked institutions that citizens of this state can be proud of.</p>

<p>I assure you, it wasn’t always that way.</p>

<p>I had to turn in a verification sheet and I haven’t completed the Florida Residency form yet.</p>

<p>The only thing in between that area is “Residency Classification” So no Scholarship?</p>

<p>I would get your residency classification done. The scholarships are generally given to instate students.</p>

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<p>First, the fall housing deposit is $225, not $100. If you are admitted for summer, you need to sign up for Fall 2011-Spring 2012 housing now and pay the $225 within 10 days to ensure a decent priority number.</p>

<p>Second, you do not have to do ANYTHING for summer housing yet. Come February, you will have to sign up for summer housing and pay another $100.</p>

<p>YOU MUST SIGN UP FOR FALL/SPRING HOUSING NOW AND PAY THE $225 WITHIN 10 DAYS EVEN IF YOU ARE A SUMMER ADMIT OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PRIORITY NUMBER (although I have read here that if you call them and tell them about a hardship, they will give you until after the holidays, but call to make sure). I put that in all caps for a reason - DO NOT DELAY SIGNING UP FOR FALL/SPRING HOUSING IF YOU ARE A SUMMER ADMIT.</p>

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<p>I’d rather go to FSU personally, but who is going to argue that FSU is more selective than UF?</p>

<p>That joke makes no sense</p>

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<p>I haven’t and I made that point in a previous post.</p>

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I was also born and raised in Florida and my father was a life-long educator in Pinellas County, plus received his masters from UF. We thought the joke was funny because every good joke has an element of truth. The truth was we thought FSU was better academically than UF. Not that we considered UF really deficient, but just the state “ag” school and nothing special. We considered the “classes on tape” UF featured due to lack of faculty staffing especially amusing after we’d graduated.</p>

<p>In truth, these college ratings were not around when I was a student. There was no US News college measurement and the measure of a good graduating hs student was if they did well on the Florida Twelfth Grade Placement Test and were in the NHS. You only took the SAT if you intended to go out of state, and then you just sat down and took it. There were no multiple attempts at the tests or prep classes.</p>

<p>The [Flutie</a> Effect](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutie_Effect]Flutie”>Flutie effect - Wikipedia) is at least somewhat responsible for the recent success FL has enjoyed. Indeed, FSU received a similar bump when achieving football success.</p>

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<p>I know exactly what you are talking about. You didn’t prep for it, you just took it once and whatever you got, you got. I can’t tell you how surprised I was when I ended up at my out of state school and found out that the northern kids had not only taken prep courses for the test, but stayed in on a Friday night to rest up for the test. It would have never occured to me to miss a Friday night football game and the party afterward in order to rest up for the SAT.</p>

<p>Back in those days, Florida experienced a brain drain. Most of the top students did not want to be educated in the Florida schools. The state did not devote much in the way of financial resources to its public universities and they weren’t considered good schools and not just nationally, many in Florida thought they were not good schools, either. That is why the parents who could afford to, sent their kids out of state for college and those who couldn’t afford it, took out loans.</p>

<p>It was a lot cheaper to get an out of state education back then. The expense of an out of state education now coupled with a desire to stop the brain drain from Florida has resulted in the citizens of Florida commiting to developing a strong higher education system. I am happy to see that. I can tell you of all the top students from my county who went out of state for college, I am the only one who returned to Florida and I returned because of my marriage, not my career. If it weren’t for my marriage, I would have never returned to Florida.</p>

<p>So it makes sense for Floridians to invest in higher education in order to stop the brain drain from Florida that existed when I was a kid. Back when I was a kid, almost all of the top students left to be educated out of state and most never returned.</p>

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<p>It made every bit of sense when I went to school and for years after. I believe it’s only been in the last 10 years that’s changed. UF was known for growing pot, good pot - “Gainsville Green.” My friends there weren’t serious students, they were serious agriculture pot growing students - and were open about it; that was the culture at the time and certainly a different world at UF.</p>

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<p>The Moan over Miami. I was at that game and we had every reason to believe we won, I remember we started to leave and then we just stood there in disbelief, all of us.</p>

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<p>This. FSU was either the farm school, the Florida cracker/hick school or the party school. It’s current academic success has been more recent for sure.</p>

<p>You mean UF, right, sunny?</p>

<p>OOOOOOOOOPS. Yes, meant UF. Yikes.</p>