<p>you shouldn't be bothered at all about native speakers taking the test....that shouldn't be a deciding factor in your taking the test. take it to show your proficiency in reading and writing french. and even marina_b who's not a native speaker got 800 in listening.</p>
<p>I agree with Jrock. the SAT french is not the AP, where you have to speak, it's all about grammar rules and comprehension. so while native speakers may have an advantage, it's not as though you can't catch up :) so when you've learnt all that grammar and are confident in reading french material, like newspaper articles, you know you'll do fine</p>
<p>I want to take the test for college exemption. I'm preparing for a June test date. My question is what does it take to get a 670 or preferably a 700? Also, how do you suggest studying? I'm in my fourth year of french and averaging around a 90.</p>
<p>I want to get a 700 at least too!! I am taking AP french right now~</p>
<p>marina_b, Je suis d'accord encore:)</p>
<p>chipset, this is marina_b's advice and it worked for me. 1. read as much french material as you can. 2. you could make vocabulary flashcards. they work. 3. watch french movies and practice speaking with other people [vocabulary fades fast without use. and when you start speaking, you'll realise you know so much, but have to grope for proper structure/grammar/vocabulary. 4. most important, master thoroughly all the grammar you know. most people who take the test can write fairly, however, CB sets those little, somewhat insignifcant traps, which, if not avoided, can rob you of several precious scores. 1+1+1+1+1+.25+.25+.25+.25.....and you lose a big chunk. every one point is precious on subject tests!</p>
<p>following the curves on CB and PR books and also generally, to make a 700, your raw score would be in the low 60s. if you can ace all the grammar and vocabulary sections, that'll be cool, then to catch a few more points in the passages.....</p>
<p>when are y'all planning to test?</p>
<p>my sincere thoughts guys: Il faut bien que vous passiez l'examen francais SAT seulement parce que vous l'aime. you shouldn't just merely take it to fulfill a requirement but because you have a genuine interest in the language. with that mindset, you wouldn't bother at all whether native speakers are testing. what you score is to your credit, and yours alone.</p>
<p>i'm into french for not only practical but personal development purposes. and my goal is to be perfectly fluent in S, R, and W french before college.</p>
<p>and if you're testing beyond january, or even in january, you may find your target score has increased drastically!!! Princeton Review and Barron's are exceptionally helpful books. they bring everything into perspective. and also the test in the Blue CB Subject test book. You will meet many of those words you come across on the real test. i kept seeing "soupir soulager" but never got around to looking it up, and alas, a question requiring soulager came up and i lost 1.25 pt.....i didn't have barron's but aside from my other standard french books, i went thru PR and its tests 3 times to make sure it all stuck, and i did the tests in CB thrice to make sure i'd really learnt from my mistakes.</p>
<p>on the actual tests, all the rules in PR jumped at my eyes e.g. "dont" never begins a question, and many many more. at least the one thing that i really had to master b4 the exam was the use of all those preps. which had been earlier confusing. and if you can skip thru the grammar quickly, you'll have more time for reading the passages.</p>
<p>hope this helps.</p>
<p>another strong point on grammar CB tests is the subjonctif and l'imparfait. common in the fill-the-gap passages....</p>
<p>and yeah, it's sorta scary to take the exam. but honestly i felt this exam easy in comparison to the CB practice test. i'm serious. i think: practice is hard, but then, when the real thing comes, it seems easy.</p>
<p>i hope marina_b will offer some more insight into the test.</p>
<p>Chibifry, how's Ap french like? so it has an oral component. hey y'all i want to clarify something about APs. Are Ap's comparable to SATs? except for difference in format e.g. free-response as opposed to pure objective sat? and why do some institutions not distinguish between SAT2's and AP's in awarding credit.</p>
<p>If anyone is familiar with the A-level, could rank the 3[or 2] tests in order of difficulty?</p>
<p>crimson4me, i'm more anxious than ever about the score results....do you take OCR in sa?</p>
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<p>score: 710....very disappointing, but i'm still thankful. must've made heaps of mistakes...anway, pride goes b4 a fall.</p>
<p>how were your results guys?? hope they were cool :)</p>
<p>really bad for me... 470</p>
<p>I got a 760, but then again, I've also lived in France and am nearly fluent (little grammar rules are still annoying though...). I thought it was much harder than I had expected.</p>
<p>On a side note, I skipped lots of questions and only answered what I knew or was nearly sure on. I think I must have skipped about 10-12 questions rather than risk getting them wrong. I don't know if that's a good strategy for people whose French isn't as advanced as mine, but for people who will know almost everything, it might be better than forcing yourself to guess when you'll get enough points from what you know.</p>
<p>770, very surprising considering I was expecting something around a 730. I think that I might retake it though, because I know I can do better with more studying.</p>
<p>Sylense, I'm really very sorry....are you going to retake?</p>
<p>Bengji, that was a great strategy....better to skip the ones you're unsure of and get all the others! grats!</p>
<p>and chillaxin, this is absolutely wonderful!! grats from me....it all turned out much better than expected.</p>
<p>Chibifry, how's Ap french like? so it has an oral component. hey y'all i want to clarify something about APs. Are Ap's comparable to SATs? except for difference in format e.g. free-response as opposed to pure objective sat? and why do some institutions not distinguish between SAT2's and AP's in awarding credit.</p>
<p>ap french is fun, then again I am not a native speaker and I just love the language, so ahhaha. I dunno I didnt take the sat IIs but I saw some practice Qs and it seemed rather challenging. I can definately say though the passages Ive been practicing are quite difficult, usually I cant even grasp important details.. </p>
<p>ap french
oral, writing, reading, grammar
oral - must recount a story from provided images, answer qs
writing - essay (harshhh)
reading - basically like the real SATs except in French (just looking for the answer won't help, must understand passage as a whole)
grammar - fill ins</p>
<p>hmm 580..pretty bad too..retake in jan</p>
<p>whats a better french sat prep book, barrons or PR? some reviews in amazon.com said barrons were too easy, while there werent any PR reviews...are there any other good prep books other than those two?</p>
<p>I think Barron's and PR are about your only options :) I found them both just fine - although Barron's could certainly be better edited - and although their practice tests may be slightly easier than the real thing, I definitely found them to be pretty close to it. A lot of questions similar to those in the two books seemed to pop up in my SAT. </p>
<p>You might also want to work with an ordinary grammar book, I found that helpful as well, if you need to revise more. I used 'The Ultimate French Review and Practice' by David Stillman, which is just excellent because it gives you lots of practice exercises on the grammar covered in the other two SAT study guides. </p>
<p>good luck on your next test :)</p>
<p>thanks! um is it just me or is the grammar section not very tested in depth? me and my friend both found nothing on subjunctive in two separate testings, nor on most of compound tenses apart from passe compose (nothing on pluperfect etc )...is this the usual?</p>
<p>oh I don't know. I only took the test once and that was a couple of months ago now - I have a very short memory and tend to try to forget about tests afterwards :) but I'm sure that I was given a few questions that at least had the subjunctive as an answer choice...</p>
<p>I was doing the SAT II french practice test. i got a raw score of 50, what would that be in the 200-800 scale? And where can i find a conversion chart?</p>
<p>Hey guys, I can’t find this information ANYWHERE…how long is the French SAT II?</p>