<p>BF: If you did do a visit, how do you know that you didn't see seej (the Deerfield poster)? We LGBT people don't walk around with big signs, we don't have horns, and we don't all dress alike. And, as for what you claim you saw at Andover, those items are just taken from the "Visit Impressions" thread. Tell us something that really happened there, not just something you copied from the web, and we might begin to believe you. In other words, prove it.</p>
<p>Well Brook, I do standout and nobody approached me as she said she would. DR. Curtis did not introduce herself as such.</p>
<p>D. Hot turkey sandwich for lunch. Baseball game that evening. My guide just got back from a Boston shopping trip Sunday.</p>
<p>A. Had ham and cheese sandwich and bean soup. Organ concert at lunch (think this was the first time they had had such). Met with Dr. Kipes, the Priest. </p>
<p>Finally. I don't really care what you all believe. Unless you have positive posts, I am out of here.</p>
<p>BiggestFoot -- when you post on a public forum where your past postings are easy to retrieve, it is best to try and keep your lies straight.</p>
<p>on 3/14 you posted: "I will stay on the waitlist from Andover and Thatcher - or go to Yuma High."</p>
<p>again on 3/14: "I have turned down "bird in hand" for possibility of thatcher or andover " and "why else did I turn down - because i get FA at Andover or thatcher if accepted "</p>
<p>Your postings state that you were waitlisted at Andover and Thacher and that you applied for FA (it isn't offered or anticipated unless you apply). It is your own conflicting statements that lead us to believe that you aren't being truthful. Just saying something doesn't make it so.</p>
<p>I wish you the best of luck at Villanova Prep -- I do think you will be more comfortable there than any of the schools you applied to. Maybe your opinions regarding education and the liberal values that are undermining our society came out in your essays or interview -- it certainly would have made more than one admission officer cringe.</p>
<p>hsmomstef.
I appreciate your post. Yuma high is great, but 40 students in some classes and A students nerds. High rate of drugs and alcohol. I would like smaller classes and VP does sound what both me and my dad want.</p>
<p>As to my essays/interviews. I am sure that they did come through. I also got letter from senior person at several of the schools appreciating my Christian beliefs. I am not quite so antagonistic in person or belief -- but do like to challenge others for their beliefs -- especially if it is something which I do not understand and feel is wrong.</p>
<p>did i get "accepted" at D and A. Technically, no. But one could assume that getting asked if I had changed my mind about attending and I have 24 hours to reply is the same. As I believe Brooklyn said, most schools don't accept if they think you will not say yes. </p>
<p>And yes, I would vote for Bush if I could and I think Hillary is an example of the downfall of America.</p>
<p>My dad is not really religious, and is just as likely to give me poetry and books to read. Recently he stuck this on my door and I am sharing it with you.</p>
<p>No one after lighting a lamp puts it under the bushel basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father in heaven.Matthew 5:15-16</p>
<p>I think that while he is telling me to shine, that we also can not do and say things that would keep another person from shining. Maybe this can be the positive thing you want, and now you can contribute some positive comment to another.</p>
<p>Whaht do you like about Villanova? Have you committed? Do they have a summer program? What language will you take?(i now want to take chinese)</p>
<p>Elio. I like your Dad.
VP requires 8 semesters of religion which are quite varied. It is under the Order of St Augustine and teaches Judio-Christian Values. There are no "gay" clubs and no (known) gay students or faculty. They have as many AP courses as most in Mass and as good of a College admittance. It is in a beautiful location in the foothills with nice views of the Pacific Ocean. My guide goes surfing every weekend (which is something I have always wanted to try) and they have a surfing team for sports (cool? uh). They don't have Chinese, but do have Japanese. I will do Latin and maybe Spanish.</p>
<p>Also, I only partly agree with your interpretation of Matthew. I do believe we need to help someone else shine -- but if they are violating God's covenants, that to help them shine is to help them understand that they are sinning.</p>
<p>just wanted to point out that this getting off topic again and that there should be a new thread on the Deerfield issue because I don't believe that what has gone on, on this thread can be ignored.</p>
<p>biggestfoot. you didnt see me because you werent there. We (because there are many students besides myself who know about this forum and are somewhat intrigued by it) watched every new student get their guide, and there were no skinny boys with ponytails. nor did anyone in the admissions office say that any person from any reservation anywhere in the us was coming to da. so maybe you showed up unannounced, or maybe you just got all that info off danet--a site easily accessible to the general public.
either way, i dont care. it does not concern me whether you are who you say or not. what does concern me is the hate you are preaching on this thread that is supposed to be about a terrible event that happened at Deerfield, and how we as a community are handling it. you will not make gay people straight, you will only make them more angry and fight harder for equality. because we are humans, and we have inalienable rights that no religion nor government can deny forever. we have been, we are, and we will be. so congratulations on villanova, i wish you luck in all your future endeavors, and thank you for not sullying our campus with your ignorance.</p>
<p>hmmm i have never heard of this before, but i guess it was bound to happen. gays have always been targeted and frankly, i'm quite sick of it. being gay doesn't make you a bad person and it certainly doesn't make you a different person once you reveal it to the public. i hope this situation is resolved and the culprits are caught. the article said that the students that were targeted left the school? i truly feel sorry for those students.....they don't deserve that.</p>
<p>seej.
Sorry, I did wear my loin cloth. I had on a black suit and combed by hair back straight. I did not think D was liberal enough for ponytail. As I said hello to many people, all of which were friendly, I know I was seen. My address is not "reservation" -so doubt your admission office people knew I was "from a reservation". (or is that like being from a housing project or a ghetto? - would the office know that?)</p>
<p>You misunderstand me. I think (and I have posted) that the event was wrong. Hate mail is never ok. I only stated that the students apparently had not the courage to express their views any other way and apparently your Dean agrees. </p>
<p>I have no problem on how you live in this life - although I don't believe that sexual interaction between any unmarried couple - gay or straight - is correct or inalienable. It is your next life that I worry about, but I guess that is what purgatory is about. I have not "preached" hate, only that it is immoral. I find it interesting that I am supposed to have more empathy for your sexual rights than you are for my religious right.</p>
<p>At my son's school, they do give the students a list to look at; it shows the visiting student's names and where they come from. I don't know if Deerfield and Andover do that or not.
BiggestFoot, you do sort of need to "let go, let God". You know, each person's individual belief and interpretation of the bible is going to vary. There are lots of religions (heck, Catholocism is one of them) that pretty much believe that if you don't adhere to their specific tenets, you are off to hell. Purgatory, by the way, is sort of a Catholic "invention" isn't it....schemed up to make folks pay "indulgences" to the pope way back in the day. You do have every right to defend your beliefs, but you can't make your beliefs others'. As far as you feeling that people are expecting you to have more empathy for their sexual rights than they do for your religious rights....well, that is cause for more debate. I for one believe that religion is a choice; sexual orientation is not.</p>
<p>bigfoot,
you think da is too liberal because it is accepting of gay students, but not liberal enough to let you wear a ponytail? sadly, your view of our school is incredibly skewed. They don't need the name of the reservation, because we have approximately 1 student who applied to Deerfield from one. but i am sorry if that came across as offensive, or if you thought i was stereotyping you because of your race. as fellow minorities, I would and do fight just as hard for your rights as I do for my own. despite the fact that you would never for mine. look, I didn't come here to get into a fight with you. I respect your beliefs, I respect your right to have them. What I do not respect is you telling me that I will go to hell or purgatory (not that I believe in either, but that is not a reflection of my sexuality, it is a reflection of my personality) because of whom I love. that is telling me that I am not as good as you, that there is something wrong with me. and trust me, there is absolutely nothing the matter with me, or any of my gay brothers and sisters. you are condemning love, and that is the most unchristian of all ideals. so, Im not saying that we should be more tolerant of my views, im just saying we shouldnt spread hate, which, like it or not, is what you are doing.
perhaps you could provide some proof of your revisit? like the name of your guide? or how do we begin every meal? or which class did you visit, which teacher? don't take this as you having to defend yourself, Im just very confused. because no one saw you, but there's a chance we all missed each other.</p>
<p>I'll join the debate about having more empathy for sexual rights versus religious rights. In this context, nobody is telling BiggestFoot that he's a bad person because he's not gay; while he's telling people that they're bad people for not adhering to his religious code. The objections aren't about sexual orientation or religious beliefs. They're about bad manners.</p>
<p>Which, of course, is exactly what one should expect from a troll.</p>
<p>A few posts ago, he said he would stand out in a crowd. Now he's saying that he blended in. And why did he intentionally try to blend in? Because Deerfield isn't "liberal enough"! He's like totally making up things on the fly as they suit his trolling objective. Among those fabrications is the point that somehow he's not being accorded the same latitude over his religious beliefs that he's refusing to accord others over their views regarding sexual orientation.</p>
<p>to biggestfoot:
this is seej.a.k.run.'s friend. i too am a student at deerfield, and am intrigued by your claim to have been on campus this past week. you see, biggestfoot, i am a tour guide who greeted every single incoming student on all three days, and i met no one of your description. i have been following this thread for quite some time with no intention of posting, but your immature and quite frankly irrationally spurious posts have lead me to reply. there was not even a single boy with long hair, slicked back or not. but, to be fair, as most deerfield students are, i would like to give you an opportunity to defend yourself. i am impressed that you could maneuver the internet to the deerfield webpage and discover our meals and weekend events, but your "proof" leaves little to be desired. seej.a.k.run said she was not accusing you of anything or requiring you to defend yourself, but i am. could you tell me the only decoration inside the dining hall? how many classes did you attend? other than classes, what did deerfield do to encourage you to attend our wonderful school? preferably you could answer a question that relies less on your ability to correctly use an online search engine, and more on your ability to uphold an ethical and moral lifestyle in which telling the truth is in fact something that leads you to a "better after life"</p>
<p>isn't lying a sin on the road to purgatory? so, as a gay student myself, i guess see.j.a.k.run. and i will see you there.</p>
<p>what I have learned here today:
keylyme is one smart mother!
Deerfield students are very articulate
Biggest Foot wakes up very early on Saturday mornings</p>
<p>sang and then clapped after meal (it was good)
?the backpacks out side lining the path, the lobby?
toured JL2South
Creative writing, 3rd world hx, german, lunch, 20 cent hx.
I may well not immediately enter heaven but I try not to CHOOSE to sin</p>
<p>dear biggestfoot,
again, this is seej's friend. unfortunately, you've been caught in your lie. i wish you had at least thought through your explanation of how you were, in fact, on campus. sadly, to start off, we don't even have a german program, so i'd be interested to know what german class you attended. you also claimed you went to three classes before lunch. that's odd, because there was one class before lunch, and two following. we also don't offer a third world, or 20th century history class. in fact, the only class we do offer that you appear to have attended is creative writing. but, yet another loophole, in that creative writing is a senior elective, and seniors never host visiting students.</p>
<p>sorry biggestfoot, you're out. unless you have some sort of miraculous explanation as to how deerfield created courses in order to serve your interests because you were such a superior student and they really wanted to convince you to come (which, from your lack of articulation on this thread, i can tell they did no such thing), i think it's time to take a seat.</p>
<p>geeze seej friend
You need to look at your catalog: Hx 412 = 20th cent and Hx 440 is third world and Eng 473 is creative writing. And JJL did arrange senior to take me because he was friend of friend of 7. And yes you were right, german was another school, french was yours and I did the three before if you check the schedules you will find the above checks. Perhaps you don't attend DA?
But, I don't need to prove anything to you. Perhaps I will see you at DA or in purgatory. Adios</p>