Deferred. Now what?

[fallenchemist]

<p>No, they hit their target of around 1500-1550. I’ll try and get the exact statistics and post them later.</p>

[AVHS_Dad]

<p>I bet those bi-weekly emails they they send to accepted students help.
I’m sure quite a few respond other than “undecided”.</p>

[jym626]

<p>Housing is a squeeze. My s told me that they are allowing some sophs to live off campus next year due to high retention rates and housing space limits.</p>

[fallenchemist]

<p>OK, here are some interesting stats from the head of admissions in an SAC report:</p>

<p>(1998 vs. 2008) Nothing I can do about the spacing.</p>

<p>Applications 8,012 34,125
Accepted 6,307 9,207
% Accepted 78.72% 26.98%
Enrolled 1,476 1,560
Yield 23.40% 16.95%
SAT Average 1257 1337</p>

<p>Last year’s class was 39,940 apps, with 10,544 accepted (26.4%) and 1506 enrolled (14.3% yield). Things have really changed!! But they will have to get close to that 2008 yield to get the class they want. Also, officially they say the enrollment goal is 1400, but I always got the feeling they like it around 1500.</p>

[idad]

<p>Since this thread has veered off-course some already, I’ll ask a question S2 has here rather than beginning a new thread. Is there a place on the Tulane site or elsewhere that speaks to how many students Tulane places into top law schools?</p>

[jym626]

<p>Regarding the increasing number of schools sending out “personal apps” heres some further info:</p>

<p>[Colleges</a> Market Easy, No-Fee Sell to Applicants - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/education/26admit.html]Colleges”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/education/26admit.html)

More than 100 other colleges and universities paid the same marketing company to send out variations of these fast-track applications last fall, more than a five-fold jump since 2006. Some have spent upward of $1 million on their application campaigns, and many have seen their applicant pools double or even triple in the last two years.</p>

<p>More than 100 other colleges and universities paid the same marketing company to send out variations of these fast-track applications last fall, more than a five-fold jump since 2006. Some have spent upward of $1 million on their application campaigns, and many have seen their applicant pools double or even triple in the last two years.

</p>

<p>Heres another article on Royall & Co.s marketing blitz [ROYALL</a> & COMPANY - The Choice Blog - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/royall-company/]ROYALL”>Royall & Company - The Choice Blog - The New York Times) and a direct link to Royall’s advertising [Royall</a> & Company](<a href=“http://www.royall.com/]Royall”>http://www.royall.com/) promising 25% more applications, and 50 % more from their interest pool.</p>

<p>While TU may have been an early leader in this strategy, seems like its developed a lilfe of its own.</p>

[fallenchemist]

<p>Interesting, veeeeeeerrrry interesting.</p>

[jym626]

<p>Not sure why the paragraph in the quote duplicated. Advertising?? LOL</p>

[idad]

<p>Indeed it is interesting. The priority application, or whatever they call it, is one reason S2 became interested in Tulane. I can’t quarrel with the outcome.</p>

[jym626]

<p>If marketing didn’t work, there would be no marketing. Obviously it works.

Eduardo Garnica, 19, of Sacramento, said he had expected to attend the University of California, Davis, until he received a “Distinctive Candidate” application from XXXXX “I hadn’t been that interested in going there,” he said. “But they made it easy.” </p>

<p>Mr. Garnica said he had been captivated immediately by the words “Waived application fee” and “No required essay!” on the bright orange envelope. Inside, a cover letter congratulated him for having “earned an opportunity that is reserved for only a select few high-priority students.” (In truth, he was one of 30,000 who got the letter.)</p>

<p>He said he was flattered enough to visit, liked what he saw and was later accepted. He enrolled as a freshman this past fall.

Sound familiar? The school: University of the Pacific, in Stockton

Similarly, Matthew Buck, a 17-year-old high school senior … had applied this year to York College in Pennsylvania, Wells College in New York, and Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Massachusetts, largely because they sent him fast-track applications. </p>

<p>“It was free,” Mr. Buck said. “I had nothing to lose.” He added, “If they’re willing to consider me, then I’ll definitely consider them.”

</p>

[fallenchemist]

<p>Well, I really see nothing wrong with it at all. Just because we were used to a different model doesn’t make the old one right. I saw in the article one high school counselor was worried that kids wouldn’t look into a school because this was so easy, but I think that is absurd. The vast, vast majority of kids would go online and check a school out, both at the school’s website and places like CC, either when they got the app or when the school accepted them. Either way, it isn’t like they would go someplace blindly. I am sure there are anecdotal exceptions, but they would be the rare (and stupid) case. Kids are too internet savvy and used to having easy access to information to not look into things first.</p>

[idad]

<p>Agreed. S2 has spent a considerable amount of time not only on college websites, but on the various discussion boards and review sites. There is plenty of info out there. An interesting point, he visited one campus and liked it and what they had to say. He then started to explore the info on the web and found what students had to say and articles in the student newspaper to be quite off putting. That school is now crossed off the list. The Internet trumped the visit.</p>

[jym626]

<p>Reading what students have to say, good and not-so-good, is helpful to get a balanced opinion. My s’s loved the Yale Daily New’s “Inside Guide to Colleges” --really gave a good feel for what it is like to be a student at many schools. I found that their description of my undergrad hadn’t changed a lot in all these years.</p>

<p>As for marketing. Agreed it is fine (though wish some schools would kill fewer trees) and some schools seem to be single handedly keeping the US Postal service in business, LOL. Was just saying that while TU was early on the the “free/fast/personal app” train, they were not alone.</p>

[idad]

<p>What I get a kick out of is how short one would assume winter is based on all the college materials we received from midwestern and northeastern schools.</p>

[Scorpio1]

<p>Interesting article, but it’s not like colleges who don’t use Royall & Co are sitting in their ivory towers waiting for the worthy and just to knock on the door. They’re sending out mailings, doing the college fairs, sending out the recruiters, and generally trying to accomplish the same goals. Just not as effectively from the sound of it. Let’s be honest–I think we’ve all received mailings that made you wonder just why anyone would go to the school that sent them. There are some truly uninspired marketing campaigns out there.</p>

<p>I have no problem with Royall & Co’s program as long as it’s done fairly. I’m in a small town with a rather unsophisticated counseling staff at our high school. They’re geared for In-State Schools and not much else. If Tulane (and the other schools) target mailings to students in my town, and those mailings get qualified students to think, maybe for the first time, that they have options that they’ve never considered, then they are performing a a great service. At the same time, if those qualified students discover Tulane then it’s a win/win for both the student and the school.</p>

<p>Note I keep using the word “qualified” though. There’s the problem. We’ve gotten mailings from Harvard, Princeton, and several others schools that are obviously designed to inflate their numbers and not much else. It’s flattering to get them, but also potentially damaging for a 17 year old to get the mistaken impression that Harvard is sitting there with fingers crossed hoping they’ll do them the favor of applying.</p>

<p>I’m not accusing Royall & Co of doing that. If anything, they are bringing a much needed level of sophistication to a very antiquated process, and long term if these programs help the schools target truly qualified candidates and the students identify schools that are a good match, then so much the better.</p>

<p>Of course, in another 3 years everyone will be doing it, so the advantage will be gone and there will be a thread debating whatever the next great tool is.</p>

[tulanestudent]

<p>I am a freshman at Tulane, last year I was deferred, waitlisted, and then accepted April 29th. My GPA 2.998, and my SATs were 1880. I now have a 3.528 GPA at Tulane. I don’t know why I was admitted off the waitlist. These things are flukes: I regard my admission to Tulane as similar to an act of God. It was do to yield and having enough beds filled. Why I was picked when other kids with similar stats were not? It might have to do with the fact that I came from a high school that Tulane knows very well, and because of my high school’s reputation, I think I had an edge against other students on the waitlist. I am a killer writer, and my essay was fantastic. I can’t tell you whether you will get in off the waitlist after being deferred, but I can tell you that it does happen. I know this is a stressful time, but just remember that just because you are below Tulane’s median, doesn’t mean you won’t get in, or that you won’t do well if you do get in. I am a testament to that.</p>

[hgebs]

<p>Thanks for that, Tulanestudent. My DS is in a similar sit - similar GPA, but with great upward trend, and ACT right in the median (30) Goes to private HS well known and regarded by Tulane. He was deferred to RD and we are still waiting. I bet he ends up on the waitlist - if not rejected - this year because of increase in apps this year.</p>

[acme]

<p>hgebs, my DS is in a similar situation, too, and my bet is the same as yours since we have heard nothing to date.</p>

[fallenchemist]

<p>Yes, with the lower than Tulane average GPA combined with test scores a bit below Tulane’s average, it isn’t surprising Tulane would wait and see how the yield is going. Best of luck to you all.</p>

[hgebs]

<p>I thought 30 ACT was right in there for Tulane? Anyway, DS is waiting with baited breath. I wonder if he really won’t hear until April 1. . .</p>