<p>** yes its a long post..... READ IT COMMENT DEAL WITH IT**</p>
<p>somebody please explain to me ...just grades and all that aside.....why there is even an *
option* such as deferement? that just doesnt make sense to me....I mean if they like us
enough to not reject us, then y not just straight out accept us in the first place? I
dont get this "american" system of acceptances that colleges have (yes its very
American since in europe all u have to do is take a colege test and BAM! if ur smart u
get in if ur not sucks for u) And it cant be cuz they dont have enough spots for all of us . I
mean come on people did u see their campus? i go to coneecticut expecting to sightsee
after touring the campus and all i see is YALE YALE YALE. Connecticut is YALE for Gods
SAKE! Their campus is enormous they definetely have room for all the EA and then some! </p>
<p>JUST thought i might vent since i am frustrated, and previously was crying my eyes out ( going through the 7 emotions of breaking up with someone lol). yes i know im "only" defered and not rejected but regular decision will be even bigger applicant pool....here will come all the smart alecs with the 70 avgs. and 1100 SAT's who want to apply to YALE just "for the heck of it".....the admissions officers will get so frustrated they will prolly reject 97% of everyone...</p>
<p>and by the way , to make us feel beeter, heres what the admissions dean had to say:
"Unfortunately, we can only tell you that we expect the rate of admission for deferred candidates from the early process to be about the same as the rate of admission for all Regular Decision candidates."</p>
<p>great to know all my effort, money, and attention went to a worthy cause!</p>
<p>Fellow deferjectees, FEEL free to comment/vent/try to make us laugh here!</p>
<p>anyone who got accepted...congrats, good job, have fun, dont bother comenting here while the hurt of deferjection is still fresh</p>
<p>i think if you can show them something new, something that occurred after your application that can help make you stand out more, then you'll have higher chances</p>
<p>also, hope that they get some bad application before yours.. it'll make your app seem so great in their eyes </p>
<p>i got deferred too, but i'm not too distraught anymore.. just gotta wait until april 1 now</p>
<p>Increase in # of students, decrease in resources per student and decrease in selectivity = drop from the #3 spot in US News, Yale would be done for, Eli turning in his grave. </p>
<p>But I do think that Yale has been moving in stanford's direction and just rejecting people who they anyways would have rejected. 16% -> 38% this time. And perhaps that is the right thing to do - this whole deferrment thing is cruel - give it to the kids who you actually will consider strongly, not just to all applications that you want to procrastinate reading.</p>
<p>"this whole deferrment thing is cruel - give it to the kids who you actually will consider strongly, not just to all applications that you want to procrastinate reading."</p>
<p>The good thing to savour, however, is that Yale has this policy of "mercy" where if the adcoms think you will likely be rejected in the RD round, they won't defer you. Hence if they didn't you were a worthy candidate they would have rejected you straightaway.</p>
<p>Just be thankful that you got deferred not rejected.</p>
<p>ionno about you guys but certain people in high schools have that reputation you know? The 2400 multinational award winning whatever. For our school, the science bowl people are sort of the "elite" that people look up too.</p>
<p>I think they know this and deferred me. They just want to make it seem like i have a chance that way the people at my school aren't like ***, so random everyone got denied and they lose applications.</p>
<p>Because god-forbid they loose some free money from applications. The end of the world compared to the crushed dreams of 17-year-olds and 18-year-olds.</p>
<p>I cannot understand this sort of mentality. Yale has a way of using the SCEA round to hand-pick the very best so that they can lure them away from whatever other schools they are applying to. Getting deferred by no means suggests that you are a bad candidate. You simply didn't make that top rung, the creme de la creme, but you're still a very good candidate because you got deferred. Hope I made sense to you, but I know that whatever I say will not alleviate the pain in our hearts...=/</p>
<p>I don't care if I get in regular, if I get in, I'm going. Sure, I didn't make the very top of the app pile, but I think the hundreds of us who were deferred are nearly equivalent (and therefore since there are too many of us.. we couldn't all be taken, and they need to see us in a larger context). Guys, we need to remember that we're applying to one of the most prestigious and selective universities in the world. A deferral from Yale is still a freaking big deal - we didn't get rejected, and it means they still see hope in us. If Yale sees hope in me, I see hope in myself too. For a school like Yale, I'm willing to wait until April.</p>
<p>"A deferral from Yale is still a freaking big deal - we didn't get rejected, and it means they still see hope in us. If Yale sees hope in me, I see hope in myself too. For a school like Yale, I'm willing to wait until April."</p>
<p>Totally agree......If you really love Yale, why not wait?? I won't give up until April.</p>
<p>I think you are seriously misinterpreting what a deferral means. As hieronymus312 stated, Yale's strategy for picking applicants in SCEA is totally different than during regular admissions. They are just looking for the very best of the applicants that they would accept no matter the circumstances. For anyone that is moderately close to the threshold, but would still probably be accepted, the defer to regular admissions so they can compare them to all the other top students who used their EA at a different school. It does NOT mean that they didn't think you were good enough for Yale, it means that you weren't at the very top of their application pile. Quite a few of my friends here were originally deferred SCEA and got in regular admissions.</p>
<p>So I'm one of 2700 backup plans (i.e. defers) for Yale...</p>
<p>What sucks the most about deferral is that I have 95% chance of getting another heartbreak in April. Two heartbreaks for a single college. Maybe I should go cry...</p>
<p>I put the following information together for my deferred D, so that she would be able to put her deferment in context. Sometimes the % numbers makes it hard to truely assess what is going on. I thought that I would share my calculations with you.</p>
<p>PS Please correct any errors if made. :)</p>
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<p>To my D,</p>
<p>I was online and put some data together that you might find interesting.</p>
<p>Statements by Yale that were used:
This years EA applicant pool 10% greater than class of 2008
This year 5500 EA applicants
% EA Accepted 2008 18.1%
% EA Accepted 2009 13.4%
% EA Rejected 2008 16.0%
% EA Rejected 2009 38.3%
% EA Deferred 2008 65.0%
% EA Defeered 2009 47.6%</p>
<p>Using these %'s and applying them to the only provided number of 5500 2009 applicants we can calculate the following rough numbers.</p>
<p>You can see from the above calculations, there are roughly 168 more RD slots being held open this year and your pool of deferrees are that much more selective. This year there are 2618 instead of 3250. The point is, your deferral is a complement and even more so this year.</p>
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<p>Actually, the best of the best tend to only apply RD everywhere.</p>
<p>^^What an absurd statement. Every candidate, no matter how stellar, wants an early nod from a top school, assuming one of the top schools is of strong interest. Even if a student's top choice is H or P, an early acceptance from YSM eliminates the need to apply RD to a slew of match and safety schools (unless the student genuinely needs to compare financial aid packages or is a rank trophy hunter).</p>
<p>My oldest was deferred initially and ultimately accepted. He did attend and got a world class education. That is why one applies......to get exposed to bright people and to be challenged to exceed all expectations.... use this time to quickly understand your own motivations and focus your energies appropriately.....supplement your Yale application as new accomplishments are achieved......and / or prepare other top notch applications to other schools. Its okay to be disappointed, but don't dwell.....</p>
<p>Instead of thinking about how only the TOP candidates were selected.... and how they don't want you....... try thinking about the "building" that Yale is assembling for 2013. Right now they are picking the foundation stones.... which have to be strong and deeply rooted....there are many other building components to be chosen.... walls, pipes, windows, roofing, landscaping..... and there are so many choices.... YOUR own value as a deferred applicant has only improved.... you will get another shot at being part of the Class of 2013... and for those denied, there is a different building that needs YOU... and you are about to explore those options. </p>
<p>Always believe in yourself.... always have a big picture in mind.... and always allow yourself to have variations on your dreams..... we control a lot, but the ONLY thing we control is our attitude..... focus and finish..... be thankful of all you have accomplished and be thankful for all the folks who continue to believe in you..... never let any one thing defeat you.... use it to inspire you to further refine what you want... </p>
<p>Life is short.... have fun and be kind.... let go and let God.... (running out of pithy little phrases here, am reminded of Cher in Moonstruck, "SNAP out of it".....) you are all GREAT, GREAT kids.... WONDERFUL things are in store for YOU...... BELIEVE!!</p>