<p>musictoad, I did a web search and didn't find a Dinesh D'Souza list, even on his own web site.</p>
<p>I also took a look at his book (I think it is "An Illiberal Education"?) and did not find a list there.</p>
<p>thank you fendrock. i,too, have been unable to find.</p>
<p>i believe what we have here is a confusion between 'choosing the right college' by willy bennett et al and d'nesh d'souza, easy enough to understand given the frequency of cross blurbing. Look ahead for an article in the atlantic monthly 'the crossblurbinization of america"</p>
<p>"I reference Ann Coulter's book: How to talk to a Liberal if you must.</p>
<p>Now can anyone give me the list without the diatribes and personal anecdotes?"</p>
<p>Putting those two sentences together has to be a little joke, right?<br>
Because if you're serious -- well, you can't be serious.</p>
<p>Ach... My S (the one who attended PCU) was given Willy Bennett's Book of Virtues by his very PC k-8 school as a prize; but that's before Bennett's gambling came to light. </p>
<p>Dinesh D'Souza's alma mater was the basis of Animal House. My non-drinking S thought he would be better off at PCU.</p>
<p>willy is a helluva bookmaker!</p>
<p>I looked up PCU, the film "based on Wesleyan University, the alma mater of the screenplay's two writers". Funny?</p>
<p>Much as I have enjoyed Dinesh D'Souza's writing, I always think his would be a good name for a horse. What are the odds of that?</p>
<p>Bennett did not write "Choosing the Right College," just an insufferable Introduction to it. The book itself is in the form of your basic school-by-school college guide, with a right-wing slant. I still can't think of Dartmouth without conjuring up D'Souza's poisoining influence.</p>
<p>"My S (the one who attended PCU) was given Willy Bennett's Book of Virtues by his very PC k-8 school as a prize; but that's before Bennett's gambling came to light."</p>
<p>Yeah, I went to school with Bill Bennett and brother Robert. Robert was a pretty smart guy. Bill was a drunken football wannabe. But this was before it was PC heaven, and improved massively.</p>
<p>Bill as a Secretary of Education was a walking oxymoron.</p>
<p>My D started at a school where ****ing on the bushes below her dorm window and vomiting along the sidewalks were apparently competitive sports, and how you looked was much more important than what you said. She transfered to PCU, where it was perfectly okay not to drink or do drugs, no one cared how anyone dressed, parties didn't feel like meat markets, and ideas were debated endlessly. this all made her very happy. Where did we go wrong?</p>
<p>we are wandering again, talking about vomiting and public urination.</p>
<p>i have no problems with having "radical" professors--be they right or left. I don't think politically correct has a lock on either end of the spectrum. </p>
<p>i do feel it important that a kid recognize that they will be challenged on their assumptions and need fair warning and get ready to argue their points.</p>
<p>But what got me roiled is the Duke LAX ad that had roughly 90 professors condemning the LAX team without proof/evidence and clearly prejudging from their "radical" bias, in addition to the prof talking about all sports being anti womyn (sic), homophobic, racist nonsense. Politicization in education is too real to be ignored.</p>
<p>My post had nothing to do with Duke. Just D's eyewitness description of the kind of school she left in favor of Wesleyan (PCU) and why. The ****ing and vomiting were factors, but the lack of intellectual curiosity was the clincher. At Wes, everyone had their biases and views questioned in class. She loved that.</p>
<p>I too am unaware of any list compiled by D'Souza...he did write a book called "Illiberal Education" early in his career, which focused on Stanford, Berkeley, Howard, UMich, Harvard and Duke, though. The only list of the kind you describe that I've seen appeared in the National Review College Guide. They called it "the Academic Gulag," although I don't think D'Souza had anything to do with it. It was basically a list of all the Ivies (except Columbia), top UCs, top LACs etc., and was really kind of pointless and nihilistic. Choosing the Right College is much more useful in selecting schools and preparing a strategy to deal with potential ideological problems. I would also recommend acquainting yourself with <a href="http://www.thefire.org%5B/url%5D">www.thefire.org</a> if PC problems keep you up at night. They monitor campus speech-code problems and actually do something about them.
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I still can't think of Dartmouth without conjuring up D'Souza's poisoining influence.
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I liked this quote very much, along with "insufferable" and the "right wing slant" comment, because it so clearly demonstrates that the campus problems that concern the OP are far from chimerical. D'Souza supposedly "poisoned" the atmosphere at Dartmouth as an early editor of a now very-famous and esteemed campus newspaper that dared to dissent from the PC orthodoxy. WesDad calls this "poison." Some would call it diversity of opinion--something that mature intellectuals should be able to handle without namecalling.</p>
<p>Garland: I brought up Duke. </p>
<p>Musictoad:
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<p>You're so right. Since you reference Ann Coulter, here's is her view of one person widely acknowledged to have politicized higher education (some of my own profs were hauled before HUAC):</p>
<p>In an interview with David Bowman, Coulter said that Joe McCarthy is the deceased person she admires the most.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter</a></p>
<p>The odds of having a professor similar to Ann challenging the orthodoxy regarding McCarthy are minimal. More than likely you have some crazed Jesuit screaming about Ho Chi Minh being akin to George Washington.</p>
<p>Recently I had to endure the insufferable George Clooney film regarding the icon of CBS news Edward Murrow. What a pompous, self righteous ass.</p>
<p>Do you see how it can work both ways?</p>
<p>Nobody forces anyone to watch Clooney. I haven't.<br>
A crazed Jesuit screaming about Ho Chi Minh? Haven't met any. I have met some Jesuits, all of them sane; none of them ever said anything about Ho Chi Minh much less screamed about him. And I doubt Jesuits are to be found at PCU.</p>
<p>William Bennett is insufferable and a bore and a hypocrite. "Choosing The Right College" is, by its own self-advertisement, a guide to colleges from a right wing perspective. And if you think the Dartmouth Review of D'Souza was esteemed -- well, fine for you. </p>
<p>Compare those people with, for example, Norman Ornstein -- an honest, reasoned conservative.</p>
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William Bennett is insufferable
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You previously referred to a particular piece of writing by Bennett as "insufferable." An educated person will address such with specificity, rather than name-call.
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"Choosing The Right College" is, by its own self-advertisement, a guide to colleges from a right wing perspective.
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Exactly right, and I applaud your correction. "Perspective" is the appropriate word. "Slant" was a loaded word.
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And if you think the Dartmouth Review of D'Souza was esteemed -- well, fine for you.
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Not only "was," but "is." There is no more important or ground-breaking student publication in the country.
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Compare those people with, for example, Norman Ornstein -- an honest, reasoned conservative.
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That's an interesting observation. Norman Ornstein a conservative? Only from a Wesleyan slant--I mean, perspective.</p>
<p>Fair enough about Ornstein even if he is at the American Enterprise Institute.</p>
<p>But the Dartmouth Review? Afraid not: <a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Ethepress/read.php?id=%5B/url%5D">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~thepress/read.php?id=</a></p>
<p>This is amazing. Why is there so much ridicule for a simple (and apparently conservative) request for information?</p>
<p>drj, is that one of those 'rhetorical' questions?</p>