<p>Does anyone know, from personal knowledge, of any students who have transferred from Brown to Duke. If so, when? With all of the talk about these schools being comparable (allegedly) I truly wonder if students who gain admission to the Ivy League actually leave it for Duke.</p>
<p>well sometimes some people in some very rare cases are not always completely satisfied with their glorious ivy league school and dare to leave it for a puny non-ivy league institution. </p>
<p>I think i could go as far as to say that the athletic conference that their school competes in is to some people not the defining element of the college experience but i could be wrong on this.</p>
<p>in my experience, i know two who've transfered to Brown from Duke, several who've transferred to Brown from other ivies, and one who transferred to Brown from a community college.</p>
<p>i don't know anyone who has transferred out, although it happens. ivies in general have very high retention rates (i'm fairly certain Brown's is the third highest according to the infamous rankings).</p>
<p>i'm not sure what statistics on transfers would really reveal about a school though since reasons for transfering are almost inevitably highly personal.</p>
<p>I know three people who applied to transfer out of Brown. One went to William & Mary (to be closer to his parents) and one went to Harvard. The third applied and got in to Harvard as a transfer, but decided at the last minute to stay at Brown. I wish he had gone, because I didn't like him that much.</p>
<p>Many thanks for the info. It has helped alot.</p>
<p>is it relatively easy to transfer from ivy to ivy? generally, what year do most people decide to transfer?</p>
<p>Ah lawyerdad. </p>
<p>"With all of the talk about these schools being comparable (allegedly) I truly wonder if students who gain admission to the Ivy League actually leave it for Duke."</p>
<p>What do you mean by this? To the professionals I have asked, I was under the impression that DUKE was slightly more prestigious the Brown.</p>
<p>Can someone clear this up. These threads are starting to annoy me.</p>
<p>Come on, DMC. Can't we just agree that Brown and Duke (and pretty much all the ivies) are relatively equal in terms of prestige, and that any differences in prestige vary from person to person, depending on where a person grew up, went to college, etc.? I mean, if I were to take the time to rank colleges in order of prestige, my list would probably be very different from your list, and from lemmethink's list.... I'm inclined to think that Brown is more prestigious than Rutgers, for example, (I live in NJ) but I know many people who think that Rutgers is the Mt Olympus of higher learning.</p>
<p>Besides, prestige really isn't indicative of quality of education.</p>
<p>Prestige isn't indicative of educational quality.</p>
<p>However, since DMC thinks it is and has been very militant about his beliefs, Duke has placed #19 on the student preference survey given to high-achieving high school students while Brown placed #6 (NBER, Hoxby). Duke has a yield which lags Brown's by about ten points indicating people admitted to both schools prefer Brown more than people admitted to Duke.</p>
<p>Does this matter? No. Let it go. Duke is fine, Brown is fine and in the end it's all about the individual.</p>
<p>hes asking because perhaps his child's first choice was duke, but is going to brown, not necessarily because of prestige. the prestige is irrelevant, its more about personal "best fit." but to transfer to a "better fit" college you disrupt alot, including your social network, your accomplishments in extracurriculars, etc. that is a price to pay for the "better fit" which is perhaps enough to keep someone at Brown rather than transferring to Duke, for the most part.</p>
<p>(I briefly entertained the idea of transferring to my first choice of Stanford from my second choice Princeton, but I doubt it'll be a good idea. id only transfer if something really bad happened at Princeton that would doom me socially, or by some stroke of bad luck it turns out to not be as awesome as it seems.)</p>
<p>Fair enough... lawyerdad, as I'm sure you know, the admissions game has gotten so crazy that many kids have to go to their 2nd or 3rd or 17th choice school. But guess what? I think most kids grow to love the schools they end up at. Brown's an amazing place, and, if your daughter decides to go there, she'll probably have a great time. But if, after a year, she really wants to be somewhere else (and her grades are reasonably good), I'm sure she'll have no trouble transferring to Duke.</p>
<p>OMG Devil, you are soooooo wrapped up with this prestige game that you are totally missing the point about college. Its not about that, its about finding your niche, doing some learning, having fun, and getting a well rounded education. This prestige game at this pt is ridiculous. You think an employer is going to say one day, gee, a went to duke, b went to cornell, c went to brown, d went to columbia, e went to penn, um, Penn wins b/c it is ranked in head of all those places on the 2005 US News magazine. That is a fallacy, have fun at Duke, and stop worrying about this nonsense.</p>
<p>Well said, collegekid. :)</p>
<p>Chill out. LOL I am getting posts from people that I dont even associate with speaking as if they know me. I am NOT wrapped up around prestige. If I was, then I would not have told 2 ivy league schools "no," even though lawyerdad is perpetuating the notion that Ivy means God. I paid the deposit to Duke, so there is no turning back for me. I am NOT militant about my beliefs. One can see that from the way I worded my question. That's right...I asked a question and did not state a fact. Then, when I asked it, people jumped all over me. Why would I come on this board and tell people I will never meet that their school is inferior? Lawyerdad's post implicitly does just that and I realize the reason you guys cannot see it. It is because his bias favors you.
I have been in love with Brown since I was a small child, so maybe you guys should shift your rifles elsewhere.</p>
<p>One more thing. In general, the reason prestige is a factor for me or most other people that I know is that undergrad is a means to an end. Most people would agree that your undergrad years are professionally useless, save one thing: getting you into grad school. My ultimate goal is to go to Yale law, and I was wondering where I would have a better chance to ascertain this. So, you see, I think I would have a better shot at Brown or Duke than say...Trenton Community College. Of course, there are several mitigating factors that come into play. Do I love the school I am going to? Will I have amazing professors and are the people in general approachable? Both schools possess these traits, as far as I'm concerned, so what's the problem?</p>
<p>This statement is my problem: "With all of the talk about [Duke and Brown] being comparable (allegedly)"</p>
<p>What does this mean?</p>
<p>Duke > Brown.</p>
<p>US News seems to think so.</p>
<p>=P</p>
<p>i chose brown over duke....but it was a really hard decision...hopefully i won't regret it..!!</p>
<p>i have been following your posts, seems like that you are a single issue poster. you have been putting Brown U. down. What's your issue against this school? I don't suppose you won't allow any of your kids to matriculate in this school even if accepted.</p>
<p>too much tofu for one thing.</p>
<p>=P</p>
<p>ellendhan: A groupee. Cool.</p>