Do SAT Subject Tests REALLY Matter?

<p>How much do colleges value subject test scores? is it enough to keep us from getting accepted or is our GPA considered more important?</p>

<p>Seeing how the applications for private colleges are due later than the UCs, and a lot of the last dates to turn in SAT scores are in February, should I retake Math IIC if I got a 660?</p>

<p>GPA is obviously more important but subject tests still matter. If your scores are low it will hurt, if they are average they won’t really do anything, but if theyre high it’ll boost your chances. 660 on math 2c is considered average or maybe even a little lower than average. Many get 700+ so i would recommend you retake it.</p>

<p>I have been told that SATII’s can help you but won’t hurt you. This was told to me by the parent of an athletic recruit an Ivy, so it might just apply in that paricular situation.</p>

<p>I’m re-taking Math II in January (I’m a senior), since it’s the last date Ivies will take.</p>

<p>I don’t think Subject Tests are as important as GPA, rank, and even SAT Reasoning (in terms of objective data). That being said, you can’t have something in the 500s or lower if you really want a decent chance.</p>

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<p>Yes. (Strong scores won’t get you in but can definitely keep you out.)</p>

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<p>Yes.</p>

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<p>If applying to top engineering/tech schools, Yes.</p>

<p>If applying elsewhere, depends on what other scores you have. For example, most unhooked to the Ivies will have 700+ on ST’s, many acceptees will have 750+…</p>

<p>Since Math IIC hasn’t been offered in several years, I’d suggest you retake it, but this time take Math Level 2.</p>

<p>So if I was to retake Math Level 2 in January, I would have to send them before seeing my scores to meet the deadline… but what if I end up scoring lower than I did before? Would they disregard my new score then?</p>

<p>and if I took Level 1 (not realizing that most schools won’t accept it) and did worse than I did in Level 2, would they ignore that score or can that hurt me?</p>

<p>Going through the result threads of the ivies, I don’t think that SAT matters at all. 1890 getting accepted while 2390 with 4.0 GPA getting rejected out right. Well, If I were you I would have given more effort in writing a smacking essay than retaking the test.</p>

<p>^^An 1890 is generraly indicative of a hooked applicant. I think the unhooked are the ones with the highest gpa and test scores.</p>

<p>PhoenixR: “Going through the result threads of the ivies, I don’t think that SAT matters at all. 1890 getting accepted while 2390 with 4.0 GPA getting rejected out right. Well, If I were you I would have given more effort in writing a smacking essay than retaking the test.”</p>

<p>Totally agree with you. I think its really tough to boost one’s SAT score by retaking it. Maybe the next time you can make it above 700, but it won’t necessarily give you the edge. At this moment, the best thing to do is to spend time on the essays.</p>

<p>I’m new to this admissions/college stuff,
what is a hooked and unhooked applicant?</p>

<p>and thanks ! If I were to retake the SATs but scored lower (assuming I already sent the scores before receiving them) would I be dinged even more by colleges?</p>

<p>^^Hooked applicants are recruited athletes, underrepresented minorities (URM’s), first-generation students, and legacies (though not so much). The reason so many people with 4.0GPA’s and 2300+ test scores are turned away is simply because there are so many of these applicants - enough to fill a classs ten times over. Also a 4.0 GPA can be pretty meaningless depending on what school it is from (lack of rigor/grade inflation).</p>

<p>It would not hurt to take the test again…study for it this time. My son scored an 1870 the first time and a 2130 the second; he did not study at all, so yes the score can increase quite a bit. Most schools will only look at your highest test scores, or you can use Scorechoice (most colleges accept it, but check)></p>