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The question I want to ask is why do so many girls EXPECT to be treated different, a.k.a. "better", from guys?
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<p>Me too. I don't understand why they want equal rights and equal pay but when I try to punch them in the face they say "you can't hit a girl."</p>
<p>haha, the other week i was joking around punching a guy friend in the arm over and over, and he just turned around and punched me right back in the arm. I think it was black and blue for like a week. (and it wasn't like i was punched hard, i just bruise easily) I thought it was hilarious.</p>
<p>we do treat girls like princesses in the south. it is expected to open doors for girls and to watch the language in front of them. as far as walking on the street side, im left-handed so i prefer to be on that side anyway. </p>
<p>chivalry is so big that at my school, the girls get priority parking all over campus and the guys have to park in the back of the parking lots. not very many guys complain.</p>
<p>Agree about the all-boys school boys. Generally, if they view a girl/woman as worthy of their respect (ie not a slut, fat, or extremely ugly) they will treat her very well and have excellent manners </p>
<p>I don't see why people don't feel the need to acknowledge that yes, there are differences between men and women. If a woman does not conduct herself like a lady then I don't think she should be treated like one, but if she does, I certainly don't think she should just be treated like "one of the guys"... because obviously she's not a guy. This isn't to say that women are below men, they're just different</p>
<p>Personally, I treat guys differently than girls. I'm usually more flirtatious when I'm around guys, but with girls I'm more open because I feel more comfortable around women. I think it's so funny and dumb on how women expect respect but dress and act very unlady like. In other words if you want respect respect yourself!</p>
<p>neobez... where are you from in the south? i know that i always to that sort of thing for any girl... and i was raised in charleston, sc... i also know that all of my friends would do the same... i agree 100% with tracemhunter, it is expected, if i didnt open a door or say yes ma'am my grandma would beat me silly (figure of speech)</p>
<p>Clemsonbo, are you single by any chance?! *just joking hahhaa lol</p>
<p>I open doors for people regardless of gender.</p>
<p>I do too, even if I dont know them.</p>
<p>umm yeah, but if your name stands for university of south carolina i cant really be associated with you (just kidding)</p>
<p>no you're not</p>
<p>yeah your right... i hate carolina... a whole lot</p>
<p>Yeah, okay, I live in the Deep South. Yes, girls pretty much have it easy here--pretty much any guy will help you with your car, open a door, etc, and if you act ladylike around them, they will not cuss. Do I like it? Yes. I have several guy friends who I can say anything to, and will say anything back, so chivalry is almost dead in those relationships, because it should be. However, it's nice when a stranger will let you pull out in front of him, jump your car off, open a door, carry groceries, without you saying a word (besides "thank you", of course). I don't demand or expect these things; they just happen. Also, Southern girls are also expected to be on their best behavior. Yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir--to anyone older than you. Girls open doors as well; usually it's just a matter of who gets there first.</p>
<p>I don't know of many guys who swear around me, since if I ever used a swear word, people turn around and say, "Whoa. Did YOU just say <em>expletive</em>?"</p>
<p>I appreciate their behaving better around me -- I don't think it's necessarily "special treatment." In fact, I don't see why some girls want guys to treat them the way they treat other guys -- it's really not "equal." Furthermore, I think guys are "instinctively" more polite around girls perhaps because they instinctively recognize that some jokes or language are simply not acceptable, and may even be demeaning to women.</p>
<p>I distinctly remember working on the front page layout of the school newspaper with some senior guys when I was a sophomore in high school, trying to find a caption for a picture of the new history teacher surrounded by the scantily clad drill team. One guy suggested, "New history teacher ______ ________ is welcomed to campus by school spirit harem." And, as it was short, the EIC at the time (who I respected a lot) added, "Make that, 'welcomed to campus by his new c<em>ck-wh</em>re b*tches.'" Awkward silence.</p>
<p>For all of you that support the idea of chivalry, what is the reasoning behind it? Basically what I'm asking is what is special about girls that make certain jokes "unacceptable" to them but not your other male friends, assuming you're all generally one group.</p>
<p>Some of you say that women and men are different, hence the different treatment. First, doesn't this go against the idea that they are both equal; doesn't this thinking essentially work against the women's movement? I dont believe the idea that different but equal holds up here. For example, most people DO generally hold the door open for handicap people. COULD they open the doors themselves? Most likely yes, but with much trouble. Hence, we help them because the ability isn't equal. What I want to know is what you think seperates women and men, these "inherent differences" that neccesitate this different treatment?</p>
<p>unwritten02: While i agree with the idea that people treat people they deem worthy of their respect with respect, I don't see why gender plays any role in this. Again, I don't see this distinction or any logical reason why a respectable girl would be treated with more respect than a same-mannered guy. Your example doesn't exactly stand in that if a woman were inclined to act proper and lady-like most of the time, the crowd she involves herself with most likely would not be the type to have harsh language in the first place would it? Wouldn't it be logical to say a group of friends at least have certain values or interests that are similar? So if this particular person has an emphasis on etiquette, one would think her friends are the same way.</p>
<p>frozen-tears: How would treating two people the same...not be equal? I agree that a lot of guys do "instinctively" change their tone etc., and that's what I'm questioning =P Can you also elaborate how some jokes or language are simply not acceptable only when girls are around? If you are against racist jokes or such, shouldn't that ALWAYS be wrong, not only if girls are around?</p>
<p>I just wanted to say that the idea of equality is often taken in a literal sense. Men and women are not equal and never will be, that's just because of genetics. However that is not to say that men and women should have the same equal opportunities to succeed in life. I had to just point that out. It's not a way to justify treating girls differently, and perhaps adds nothing to it, but you brought up the idea of equality.</p>
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Men and women are not equal and never will be, that's just because of genetics.
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I sincerely hope you are talking about physical strength and not intellectual ability.</p>
<p>Men and women are different intellectually too. Ever wondered why Brown v Board didn't apply to public bathrooms?</p>
<p>^^^^^^ huh? I'm confuzzled.</p>
<p>Ya... I brought up the ideas of equality because I believe guys and girls ARE equal and should be treated the same across the board, not only where it benefits them. As apple green said, the only thing I would say is unequal is probably physical strength and stature, but then differentiating on that would also apply to shorter guys, i.e. help them get something. I still don't see the need to treat girls with a seperate attitude because I view them as equals.</p>