<p>froghorn, I don't think so. They are so small that in the end I don't think there's any reasonable possibility that they would change their minds. The UC's are different. They are large, public schools that actually have a formal appeals process (<a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/AppealsFr.htm);%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/AppealsFr.htm);</a> Haverford doesn't.</p>
<p>Your best bet is to lick your wounds for a while, and then move on.</p>
<p>Froghorn, I understand why Chedva would suggest you move on and it really makes sense because there are so many great schools out there but....
You apply to college as a freshman one time in your life. You have a dream school and you should do whatever you think you need to do to try and get in. Look at it this way, if you appeal and get in great, if you appeal and don't no harm done, if you don't appeal you will always question whether you should have. So follow the path that will give you the best chance at closure.</p>
<p>This looks like more a left-coast thing with above posts citing the UC's, U-Dub and USC. Wonder why that is...</p>
<p>Froghorn:
Just remember, that an appeal is not "Could you please look at my application again, and I have couple more ECs or minor awards". This is your case against admissions committee, when you are trying to prove that your app DID NOT GET A FAIR REVIEW. You can prove it several ways.
1) You are more qualified than admitted students. As you can see, nobody can appeal a rejection based on this arguments at HYPs (or at any top 20 school): their 75th percentille is at 780+, 3.9+ and val status, no way to be SIGNIFICANTLY above it, and they will show you a long list of rejects with your stats. And review process involving recs, essays and ECs makes this path tough even beyond top 20.
2) You know or strongly suspect that your app was incomplete or incorrect NOT due to the fault of yours (an error on your transcript or missing test score)
3) You know or suspect that review was unfair (your GC blackmailed you or you have evidence of an admission officer being biased against you or people like you). </p>
<p>There is a special story with state schools. Here comes your right for a cheaper in-state education. Even though there usually are third-tier campuses, top state schools are likely to consider your acceptance into hiigher ranking out-of-states and privates. </p>
<p>Finally, there are rare cases of "re-consideration" due to a very major achievement. Like winning ISEF. But this to be something really major. Not just "additional info"</p>
<p>after being told "i was not admissible at this time " at ariz state u. i am from ny i submitted info they wanted (3 more recom., an essay why i want to attend) what are my chances of acceptance?</p>
<p>ha, i love how both of my discussions are featured :D <em>feels smug</em></p>
<p>and crush, if you were encouraged to appeal, that means they probably want you. If your recs are good and ur essay is decent ull be fine</p>
<p>yea i didnt win :( i feel like crud i hope u of a accepts me i really wanna go there but man if they deny me all hope is gone and my hard work will have gone down the drain</p>
<p>Good advice, citymom. I think the most important thing to remember is that an appeal is not "I think I should get in but the college rejected me" but rather a "The college did not receive all my scores because CollegeBoard or another testing administation made an error/I have a GPA and SAT scores that are significantly higher than most of those accepted/my application process did not go the way it should have." The appeal process is not about a second chance to apply with the same criteria, but rather "there was a significant mistake on the first application that was not my fault" or "CLEARLY there has been a big mix up because this was the safest safety school you could imagine and I am WAY above their statistics."</p>
<p>my friend appealed to UCSC after getting rejected. cuz his math teacher wrote a hecka good recommendation.</p>
<p>kinda funny how he got rejected by ucsc (i mean they only accept 80% of the people). what a loser :)</p>
<p>I know a girl who applied to West Chester University in PA as an elementary ed major and was rejected. An appeal was made and she was admitted. I have heard that in some colleges, there is more competition for girls who wants to be elementary ed majors.</p>
<p>When we were in high school in cali applying for college, my best friend thought he really wanted to go to UCSD. He ended up getting into UCI where we live but not UCSD. So he sent off an appeal letter and, typically, it was rejected.</p>
<p>THEN the next day he spent the entire school day from class to class drafting this handwritten scrawl of a letter on ripped out notebook paper, 3 pages long, describing how he felt UCSD was a place that would really elevate him to a new stage in life away from the comfortable confines of home. He wrote about how going there had been his main goal all year long, but as the day wore on he started writing about how he was over being rejected and that he didn't even care anymore. By the end of school, it was a "to hell with it, UCSD, life goes on" letter. He stuffed it in an envelope and tossed it in the mail.</p>
<p>A week later UCSD accepted him on appeal. He is now a proud student of UCI.</p>
<p>A friend of a friend appealed UC Berkeley engineering and got in. I don't know any of the details tho.</p>
<p>wait captain.innes he lost an appeal and sent a second letter, which turned out to make the school accept him??</p>
<p>I appealed UC Berkeley engineering and got in. It doesn't hurt to try...</p>
<p>how does the appeals process actually work? Do you have to physically go before the committee or do you just submit it in paper?</p>
<p>yep, two appeals. one rational, the other as comprehendable as synaesthesia.</p>
<p>How to appeal HYP</p>
<p>I did an appeal to GMU and it worked. I don't know why I got rejected in the first place. I was so angry when I found out I didn't get it, ha. When I got my letter, I called the admissions office, and wanted to know why...and seriously, the admissions person pulled up my file while I was on the phone, and she was like... " Um.." and didn't say anythhing for a good 30 seconds and then she said "Honestly, I don't know why." And I knew people who had gotten in that were...less qualified? I dunno how to put it. I'm definitely not the smartest person but yeah. </p>
<p>So I appealed the decision with the help of my counselor...the counselor at GMU told us that I needed to present new information in order to be considered and I had to write a letter as to why I was appealing... </p>
<p>I talked about how I had a challenging schedule all through high school (honors & AP's), an above average GPA compared to GMU's requirement, extracurriculars - one that involved 30-40 hours per week after school, choir, etc... I just made them see that I was more than an SAT score. My math score sucked so badly, but I pointed out that my math grades in high school were always good, and for the new information part, I presented them with my 3rd quarter report card where I had pulled all my grades to all A's and A+'s except for one B...and then they called me on May 1st and told me I got in. You just have to make them see what they couldn't see on the application -- or explain the stuff on the application but with more detail & that u really want to go to this school.</p>
<p>I'll be appealing to a few UC's.</p>
<p>I've improved my grades by a ton (I was diagnosed with ADD at the end of Junior year, so now I'm taking medication. Explained in essay), going from a 2.6 average over the last 3 years to a 3.25/3.75 weighted GPA Senior year. The UC's haven't seen my 1st semester grades, and they probably won't see my 2nd semester grades either, so I plan to maintain or improve my GPA through 2nd semester and then appeal. </p>
<p>My tutor says I have a good chance because if I can maintain/improve my GPA during 2nd semester, it'll prove that I've really "changed" for good. Does anyone know if I stand a decent chance when I appeal?</p>