Does the Transfer chart include Guaranteed Transfers?

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<p>Hey so I was wondering; Does the following include those students who were also admitted off of a Guaranteed Transfer?</p>

<p><a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000156.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000156.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I've heard that the year before that, " Special students not included." meant that basically, "Guaranteed Transfer students not included". Basically, "Special" was a different way of saying Guaranteed Transfer.</p>

<p>I'm hearing that the reason it is so high for some colleges is because a MAJORITY of them are Guaranteed Transfer students....while others are saying that it doesn't include GT students in their numbers...</p>

<p>So can someone help out here, and provide information?</p>

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<p>Those number do include GTs, and the majority of them are GTs.</p>

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<p>Right. This explains why the acceptance rate for CALS and ILR is so high – because a lot of these students the University would have otherwise accepted for freshman year, but there isn’t enough space.</p>

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<p>^^I found that most of my transfer friends in CALS were GT students. There were not too many of us “regular” transfers.</p>

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<p>this is highly disappointing</p>

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<p>I’ve heard both - that it does include GT’s and that it does not. </p>

<p>I think they do not. The majority of students I knew as transfers were GT’s, I was only one of a few who actually applied and had to wait to be accepted.</p>

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<p>Gomestar – I think simple arithmetic suggest they have to include GT, at least for ILR.</p>

<p>The average size of the entering ILR class is around 160 students, whereas the average size of the graduating class is around 230 students. Assuming that of the 100 transfers a year, half enroll with sophomore status and half enroll with junior status, there isn’t all that many additional spots in a graduating class. Ergo, they have to include GTs.</p>

<p>Where did you transfer from, by the way?</p>

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<p>To be more specific, I think the sophomore/junior ratio for transfer is like 70:30</p>

<p>I went to Syracuse U and took a bunch of classes at a CC during my first year of college.</p>

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<p>Who would “special students” refer to then if they aren’t GT’s?</p>

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<p>maybe the students who come in from the CCs Cornell has articulation agreements with…just a guess</p>

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<p>I don’t think so, the numbers would get out of whack.</p>

<p>Special students are non-degree seeking. E.g. farmers who want to take a certain class in the Ag school. I was a “special student” at Harvard for a year, taking two graduate level courses.</p>

<p>[CALS</a> Admissions: Special and Visiting Students](<a href=“http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/applying/transfer/special.cfm]CALS”>http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/applying/transfer/special.cfm)</p>

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<p>^^that makes sense. </p>

<p>So is the consensus that the transfer charts include GTs?</p>

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<p>Yeah. You can always just email the folks at institutional research and planning. I’m certain they will be more than happy to answer your questions.</p>

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<p>I really think they do. </p>

<p>I know CayugaRed already touched on it, but the vast majority of ILR transfers were GT’s. I used to work for admission, and GT’s took up a huge part of their time. I can’t possibly see how the 108 enrolling transfer students did not include students from the GT pool, otherwise it would be a massive amount of transfer students. </p>

<p>Keep in mind, technically GT’s are applicants too. Their acceptance may be guaranteed pending meeting a few requirements, but they still have to apply and everything. And some don’t meed the requirements and accordingly are not offered admission as a transfer.</p>

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<p>^yeah…I also agree it makes sense to include the GTs and it explains the high acceptance rate for CALS.</p>

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<p>thanks CayugaRed that makes sense</p>

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<p>I found this .pdf too and was very hopeful about transferring next year because of it. Even though it’s probably likely that GTers are included, I think transferring to Cornell is still promising. I’ll take ILR, the school I hope to transfer to:</p>

<p>133/223 = 60%</p>

<p>Now, assume that there are (completely randomly) 75 GTs included in that amount, a majority of the transfers. Obviously subtract 75 from both those numbers, assuming the worst-case scenario of 100% acceptance of GTs for us non-GTers:</p>

<p>58/148 = 39%</p>

<p>Obviously a big difference, but 39% is a very good percentile for an Ivy League school.</p>