double majoring into an impacted major

<p>Hey all, </p>

<pre><code> I just got in to UCLA as a European studies Major as I filled out the UC application stating that that was my 2nd choice. My first choice was actually political science but i could not get in as it is highly selective. my question to you is it possible to request and get admitted to double major in an impacted major like Poli Sci or History along with European studies? UCLA has always been my dream school and UCSD is offering to admit me with a Poli Sci major. I really dont know what to do at this point. thanks!
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<p>This is my unverified opinion, but I dont think political science is an impacted major.</p>

<p>"All students intending to major in Political Science must enroll as Prepolitical Science majors. After completion of preparation for the major courses, they need to petition to enter the major in the Undergraduate Office, 4269A Bunche Hall.</p>

<p>Students must complete all premajor courses with a 2.0 grade-point average by the time they attain 135 units. Admission to the major is granted only after successful completion of all lower division requirements."</p>

<p>Since the GPA cutoff is only 2.0, you can pretty much assume that the major is not an impacted major.</p>

<p>As long as you finish your pre major requirements with a grade of C or better, you should be ok.</p>

<p>From what I hear Poli. Sci. is veryyyyy impacted. It is difficult to get into classes. It may be one of the majors you can only directly transfer into, but can’t change your major to once you’re in school there. But… don’t hold me to that.</p>

<p>History, on the other hand, is easy and easy to get in to.</p>

<p>Buttt if you realllly want to do poli. sci, why don’t you go to UCSD? From what I’ve gathered they have a better program than ours.</p>

<p>Butttt if you want to stay with UCLA… I also get that too, lols.</p>

<p>If you intend to be a lawyer, however, I would against majoring in Political Science. The major will lower your GPA while other candidates will all have taken easy majors such as History.</p>

<p>thank you all for the advice! Im probably gonna stick with UCLA because hey lets face it…its UCLA for god sake! it wouldnt feel right to go to UCSD when ive been dreaming of becoming a bruin since i was a toddler! if i cant get into Poli Sci then i guess ill have to make due. History is my passion anyway so i may go that route, then apply to law school in the future! again many thanks!</p>

<p>Don’t listen to sentiment. I promise you he doesn’t know anything about law school admissions because:</p>

<p>firstly, it’s not that hard to get a high GPA in poli sci. </p>

<p>secondly, law schools tend to have majors that score high in the LSAT (philosophy and econ i think are first and second), which do not match up as correlations to “easy” majors. GPA is a minor factor in relation to the LSAT.</p>

<p>thirdly, if it’s your passion, pursue it. don’t try taking shortcuts around everything, because you’ll end up regretting it. let your passion guide your action, and you’ll do well. and at the very least, you won’t regret it.</p>

<p>LOL, poli sci is not considered one of the “hard” majors at ucla</p>

<p>juss sayin…</p>

<p>i also highly doubt that the UNDERGRAD polisci program at UCSD is better. I would guess that the UCLA name carries more weight than UCSD in the law school admission process</p>

<p>I don’t think that school names carry much weight at all in the law school admissions process.</p>

<p>yea, that’s what I thought too. but the name actually does carry weight (sadly)</p>

<p>lol it doesn’t carry weight at all…PRESTIGE IS COMPLETELY OVERHYPED AND UNECESSARY…look at the websites and see where admitted students come from…u’ll see plenty that come from CSUs at law schools such as Harvard, etc…POLI SCI at ucla is far from hard…although i do agree that u should pick the major that gives u the highest gpa (the easiest major)…and no UCSD does have a higher poli sci ranking if u look at the US News site…UCLA doesn’t offer anything special at all…go where u think u’ll get the highest gpa and have the most fun…this is a rare instance where i would actually recommend UCLA, only cause north campus (history,english,etc) are eassssy</p>

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It’s not as easy as the other humanities majors, though.</p>

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The majors themselves likely had nothing to do with the LSAT scores so much as the individuals/demographic of students who choose to pursue those majors. It wouldn’t hurt to have a higher GPA and a higher LSAT score.</p>

<p>Firstly, a major in philosophy and a test based on logical reasoning and analytical thinking have a correlation. Half of the test is based on finding fallacies and assumptions in logical thought, and identical arguments [talking about the logical reasoning section]. Another fourth is analytical reasoning. Either way, law school students aren’t art history and WAC majors [no offense to either of those pursuits]. </p>

<p>Secondly, it would most definitely hurt to sacrifice what you really want to do for a slightly easier major, and it’s not the right train of thought to be in. If you do get in a T14 law school, it’s not going to be a skate and you’ll have to adjust your workload accordingly. If you want to think according to the future, take the whole scope. </p>

<p>and thirdly, it’s not necessary to get a ridiculously high gpa for law school. Sure, T3 ranges are from 3.75-3.95, but right below that is Columbia law with 3.58-3.82. I don’t know the average poli sci GPA, but sounds more than doable to me.</p>

<p>and again, you do not acknowledge how relatively miniscule the value of GPA is relative to the LSAT in law school admissions. please don’t give advice trying to deter someone from a major based on those trivial grounds.</p>

<p>well its definetley much better to have a high gpa than a low gpa lol</p>

<p>Supposed easier majors aren’t necessarily going to be easier if you lack interest in them.</p>

<p>you know this how? have you applied to law school already? you talk of lists without any substantial proof…(link>?)</p>

<p>im asking mnop444 btw…</p>

<p>HAHAH…ok bruinboy i got ure list…and this is for harvard and yale LAW SCHOOL…so obviously good law schools…Im going to try to make this short so you dont have to shift through it all…but basically UC Davis, Berkeley, Irvine, ucsb, CAL STATE-FULLERTON/LONG BEACH/NORTHRIDGE…were represented at Harvard…and Yale had other lesser prestigious universities such as UC Irvine, Rutgers,umiami, tulsa, etc…
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<p>**LOL UCLA wasn’t even represented at Yale, but Irvine was lool!!
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<p>SO HERE U HAVE IT EVERYONE: PRESTIGE HAS NO EFFECT AND IS COMPLETELY OVERRATED**…see for yourself:</p>

<p>[Undergraduate</a> Colleges](<a href=“http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html]Undergraduate”>http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html)</p>

<p>[Yale</a> Law School | Entering Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm]Yale”>Profiles & Statistics - Yale Law School)</p>

<p>these stats are from HARVARD AND YALE, the TOP 2 LAW SCHOOLS IN THE NATION</p>

<p>mnop, why do you even talk? everyone hates you and you have no friends.</p>

<p>i agree that prestige has a minor effect on law school admissions, but to think you’re going to sacrifice going to a better university out of fear for not performing well is ridiculous. </p>

<p>you can see people from nyu, berkeley, oxford, carnegie melon, wesleyan, columbia, brown, bc, barnard, upenn, wellesley, swarthmore, yale, harvard, stanford, duke, georgetown, etc. on the yale list you gave us. there’s many more prestigious universities represented there as well too [i listed 16/71 that i saw at a quick glance]. if anything prestigious universities are heavily overrepresented.</p>

<p>and take careful note that most of these are t50-t100 universities. to think that these aren’t prestigious universities is also erroneous and in your case, i’m not afraid to say idiotic… they’re only relatively less prestigious than the ivies.</p>

<p>Incognito, I think you’re stretching it a bit. Top 100 is not “relatively less prestigious” than the Ivies. UC Riverside, rank 96 in the nation, has a SAT average of 1575.</p>

<p>At best, I’d say universities up to rank 25 are only “relatively less prestigious” than the ivies with a patchy few schools below UCLA some people still consider “prestigious”, such as NYU or Boston College. I’d consider a university from rank 26 to 50 “good” schools and rank 50 to 100 “respectable” universities.</p>

<p>Basically, most major universities in the United States are represented in the top 100. Ohio State University is rank 53. Arizona State University is rank 121 (not top 100 but pretty close). -.-</p>

<p>this was the main point: "i agree that prestige has a minor effect on law school admissions, but to think you’re going to sacrifice going to a better university out of fear for not performing well is ridiculous. "</p>

<p>and also the prestigious universities are still overrepresented.</p>

<p>point being, you can go anywhere, prestigious or not prestigious, and still reach your goals because they are all great colleges.</p>

<p>the semantics of what relative prestige is aren’t worth argument.</p>

<p>shuttup incognito ure such a ■■■■■■ buddy…and trust me i have plenty of friends…how would u know how many friends i have…unless u stalk me which means ur a CREEEEPER!!!..and ooh “i’m not afraid to say idiotic”…ooh little incognito is being a big boy using some quirky little comment…dude shuttup and get a life…u stalk people, ure a creeper, and ure one of those d-bags who tries to act intellectual all the time (the kind of ppl NO ONE LIKES)</p>