<p>For finance jobs in NYC</p>
<p>Kellogg Certificate + MMSS ...</p>
<p>MMSS provides a very structured approach to get you where you need to be and definitely makes you tremendously marketable to top firms and companies. The alumni community is amazing and the cohort of students is amazing. </p>
<p>Obviously, you can still be marketable coming from Duke but you just have to be savvy enough to create your own path.</p>
<p>y’all more input sons?</p>
<p>There’s been many posts about this on the Northwestern forum.
Search up some of the things Sam Lee, Viviste, and Pizzagirl have said using the search engine.</p>
<p>Anyhow, having read much about about MMSS and Duke’s representation in i-banking/financing/consulting, here’s my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Duke is officially the more represented university in NYC. They have a strong alumni hiring base especially for i-banking, heard they get quite a few into JP Morgan, Goldman, and Merrill Lynch.</p>
<p>However, THIS IS NOT TO SAY that Duke trumps MMSS entirely in the job market for NYC.
I’ve heard of many Northwestern grads land NYC finance jobs. And especially in the consulting field, NW does very well if not better than Duke. I’m talking big consulting companies like Bain & Co.</p>
<p>Also, in terms of pure educational/skills prospects, I’d say Northwestern MMSS combined with Econ + (Maybe even Math) + Kellogg Certificate Program is better than Duke. This is not to disparage Duke’s economics program (if you pursue economics, i assume) which is well respected, but not only is Northwestern’s economics program ranked significantly higher than Duke’s but also Duke does not have a formalized program to match that of MMSS and Duke does not have a Kellogg-type business/finance certificate.</p>
<p>Overall, I admit that Duke has some strong representation in NYC, but MMSS will get you where you want to be whether it be trading/consulting/ibanking/finance/etc.</p>
<p>Sam Lee, pitch in. You gotta show this guy the MMSS alum hiring lists.</p>
<p>Basically, comparisons that show Duke > NU are not comparing apples to apples. MMSS is the very cream of NU’s crop, whereas Duke vs. NU is the whole school, which doesn’t apply to you. NU does not, in fact, place as well in Ibanking, that is true. But MMSS almost certainly places better than Duke as a whole.</p>
<p>^Add the Kellogg certificate, you’d be able to separate yourself from other candidates. </p>
<p>IMO, alumni base makes the most difference in terms of whether the firms/banks will target the schools. In that sense, there’s not much difference between NU or Duke. Duke grads have better representation but all the major banks also recruit at NU. I also think that the fact that Duke is a elite school with less signature programs tends to attract more students that would go into ibanking. Whereas at NU, students seem to be more diverse and many them are aspiring engineers, teachers, actors, and journalists…etc; they come to NU for the signature programs in those areas. So there’s a lot of self-selection going on. That is, the larger presence is probably more a function of a larger pool of students applying for ibanking jobs, rather than Duke grads being favored. It’s highly unlikely that <em>you</em> will be hired because some alums are on your reporting chain or management. If you don’t have any personal relationship with them, they are not going to vouch for you in any manner. What matters the most is <em>what</em> you can bring to the table. That’s where the training and skills you’ll acquire from Kellogg certificate/MMSS would play a much bigger role.</p>
<p>What matters the most is <em>what</em> you can bring to the table. That’s where the training and skills you’ll acquire from Kellogg certificate/MMSS would play a much bigger role.</p>
<p>^Totally agree. Alumni base/representation are important but it comes down to raw skills and competence in the job market. NU MMSS/Kellog Cert is gonna prepare you for many many different fields. It will get you where you need to go.</p>
<p>I agree with what Sam Lee and Arbiter said.</p>
<p>Bottom line: I would see MMSS at NU, with an Econ major (and, hopefully, a Kellogg certificate) as the most appealing option.
No question, though, if you have the choice, you would be in a win-win situation.</p>
<p>Kellogg student here.</p>
<p>If you get the undergraduate certificate, you will be recruited. Hard.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>The certificate program seems to be taught at pretty high level. A team of the CPU students placed 4th in Rotman School of Management International Trading Competition in Toronto last fall, against mostly MBA and graduate (MSc or even PhD in finance or financial engineering) students. [2011</a> Rotman International Trading Competition - Kellogg School of Management - Northwestern University](<a href=“http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Certificate/newsrepository/rotmanawards.aspx]2011”>Certificate Program for Undergraduates | Kellogg School of Management)</p>
<p>For some reason, Kellogg didn’t have a team with MBA/grad students.</p>