Early Decision II Official Thread

<p>Hi,
I'm planning on applying EDII. I love Colgate and I'm excited to apply.
I live in Connecticut and I'm a girl. </p>

<p>My stats: 760 cr, 600 math 770 writing
3.77 uw GPA, 3.98 w
Prospective major: Classics</p>

<p>Introduce yourself if you want!</p>

<p>Hey, I’m already a Junior at Colgate and I’m majoring in Molecular Biology and Classical Studies. I’m impressed with your prospective major! It’s not often you find someone who definitely wants to be a classics major. Let me tell you, the classics department at Colgate is top notch. I personally know pretty much every professor and they’re absolutely great. You’re going to love it at Colgate!</p>

<p>Great numbers, great prospective major (I love the Classics!), and if you love Colgate, of course you should apply. You have a strong chance of getting admitted, but of course it’s not up to me to decide and anything can happen. Keep your grades up, write a great application essay, get good recc letters, and see what happens. Feliciter!! (Good luck) Dure cogita, durius labora. (Think hard, work harder)</p>

<p>thanks!! i love the latin, colgatedad! :] ecparker, im glad to hear the classics dept. is really great. it makes me feel even better about my decision to apply ED!</p>

<p>Just got rejected. International (not asian though…Eastern Europe…and they don’t even have any students from my country, so I thought it’d benefit me).</p>

<p>SAT: CR: 700, M: 690, WR: 680 (10)
SAT M II: 740
TOEFL: 111/120
GPA: 9.5/10 (unweighted)
Recs, ECs and App essay: pretty damn good</p>

<p>I was asking for LOTS of need-based aid though…</p>

<p>they didn’t even wait for me to submit supplemental essay. :<</p>

<p>marie, thats so strange, your stats look really good to me. its really annoying that colgate is not needs blind. they should try to be a little more open-minded and follow in the footsteps of similarly ranked colleges in that respect, in my opinion.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, business is business, and there are still a lot of schools that are not need-blind. Colgate has a bit of a conservative bent to it when it comes to approaching its money and it’s paid off quite well during this recession.</p>

<p>There might have been something in her application that didn’t convince the admissions that she’d be a good fit for Colgate. I’m sure her need only played a small part in their decision. Keep your chin up and find another school that you can open your heart to :)</p>

<p>Colgate is simply not a rich university like some of the Ivies are. Consequently, it has always (wisely) followed a fairly careful approach to financial aid. The result is that Colgate has to turn down a number of very good students because it can’t afford to admit them, but on the other hand, Colgate continues to be in good financial shape year after year – just not rich. This is unfortunate as some few other colleges both Ivies and “little” Ivies are so wealthy that they can offer financial aid to nearly everyone. This is, of course, one of a number of reasons why they are all very hard to get into to. </p>

<p>Very sorry to hear you were not admitted, but there is a good college out there for everyone, so don’t despair.</p>

<p>i was accepted!!! im so excited!!</p>

<p>My son is a junior at Colgate. He loves the teachers and says the kids are all brilliant and he really likes most of what the school offers. Its beautifull and the kids are athletic and good looking. A dream of a place to go to College. Except:</p>

<p>Colgate is VERY VERY into making money. They fine you if you leave tape on the wall of your room. If you have a car you really can’t drive it anywhere on campus as they have very agressive ticketing agents. My son’s semester abroad through another school? He was charged a $500 semester “administrative fee”. “Gate cards”? You can only find out your balance by going to the admin office making it hard to budget so you get to year end and lose the balance remaining… correct - you cannot carry over the balance.</p>

<p>One more thing: My son works in the summer to help pay for college. They approved his junior semester abroad only for the fall and since he was going “down under” that meant he would need to leave the end of June and give up his job. I appealed to the Dean to move it to the spring so he could keep his job. He was told “NO” and She never gave me the courtesy of a returned call.</p>

<p>I pay full ride for my boy and i think that helped him get in. But they send me solicitations for donations and I laugh. Its a great school but they will never get one penny of donations from either my son or myself once he graduates. Would you?</p>

<p>Not sure what this has to do with ED II, but… there are good reasons for all of these. </p>

<p>I never had issues with any fines for room conditions. As long as you clean up and take the tape down when you move out, which I think they’re pretty clear you have to do, there’s no problem. Can you imagine being the custodial staff member that has to climb on the furniture to pull hundreds of pieces of tape off the walls every May? We had holes in the wall in our Townhouse, and we just spackled them ourselves and didn’t pay a dime. </p>

<p>They don’t allow cars up the hill during the day so that professors have somewhere to park. After 4 pm you can park anywhere, and before that, someone can give you a ride, you can take the cruiser or walk - you don’t need to drive at all. I only got 1 parking ticket and I knew I was going to get it, but what I had to do (print 6 copies of my 100 page thesis draft @_@) was more important, so I paid it. If they weren’t strict about parking, professors wouldn’t be able to get to the classes to teach them, so while it’s annoying, it’s totally understandable.</p>

<p>You can manage your 'Gate card online here: <a href=“https://services.jsatech.com/index.php?cid=128[/url]”>SPCC Passport; and the balance carried over year-to-year, when I was there. The policy mentions fees for 12 months of non-use and withdrawing your remaining balance at the end of the semester for a $20 fee, so I don’t think they take your balance at the end of each year even now. All the info is here: [Colgate</a> University : Gate Card](<a href=“http://www.colgate.edu/offices/administrative/financeandadministration/accountingandcontrol/gatecard]Colgate”>http://www.colgate.edu/offices/administrative/financeandadministration/accountingandcontrol/gatecard). At graduation instead of requesting the remaining balance (which you can do for no fee), I just went to the bookstore and used up the remaining balance buying my alumni license plate frame and commemorative glassware. :)</p>

<p>As for study abroad, the $500 fee probably covers the administrative costs of coordinating with the other school and various Colgate departments for credit approvals, transcripts, providing paperwork to prove enrollment in good standing, completion of the courses, etc. Enough students study abroad through non-Colgate programs that I don’t think the administrative staff could just do everything for free. </p>

<p>If he went through another school, it might not have been possible to switch semesters if it was already approved and arranged. They also have to very carefully balance the number of students off campus each semester to make sure there’s enough housing both spring and fall, since pretty much all of the beds are full year-round, and everyone always wants to go abroad in the spring. Also, if the semester was June - October or something, couldn’t he have worked over the winter instead? </p>

<p>I’m sorry you had such a bad experience and feel like Colgate just wanted your money, but there are reasons for everything - none of this is for them to make money, it’s to cover costs - custodial costs, administrative costs - or to keep everything running smoothly on campus. In my 4 years there, the only fee of any kind I paid was the $40 parking ticket and to use the copier in the library. There’s certainly no conscious plan to nickle-and-dime students out of money.</p>

<p>Wow. Sounds like you work at Colgate. </p>

<p>If not I am glad you liked it there. It sounds like fitting in is important to you.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info on the gate card. But why can’t they just provide the balance to the student when he uses it? Think about it. It makes no sense. </p>

<p>The administrative work they did to collect my sons $25 scotch tape fine was more work then then did to “help” with my son’s junior semester abroad. They did next to nothing. </p>

<p>Work in winter? You make me laugh. Yes, my son calls all the shots and can find work for two months in the winter in our depressed town. Sure he can work as a director of a summer camp in winter… as I explained to Dean J… He gave up the job and as a result will likely be unemployed next summer as well. It was a tough family financial decision to make. BTW: If you do work at Colgate ask the Dean call me back sometime. </p>

<p>Money drives Colgate and I know I am not alone in saying that. It’s a great academic school but you pay for it. </p>

<p>Would we chose Colgate again? Maybe. I’ve got three more kids coming and maybe all schools are like this… $50,000 per year plus $25 for scotch tape fines. I’ll just budget for it this time.</p>

<p>I don’t work at Colgate. I didn’t have a perfect experience there either. There were plenty of things that were inconvenient or didn’t work out - like not getting into a class I wanted freshman year. Getting a warning and fine for a candle in our apartment that we didn’t have (I spoke to the Dean, they dropped it). Or having a random person put into our apartment my senior spring, because we had a vacancy. We protested to Residential Life that we were both seniors doing honors theses, but too bad, there was a housing shortage. It sucked, but we dealt with it, and everything worked out just fine.</p>

<p>I’m not sure what you meant about “fitting in is important” to me. None of the issues you have with the school really have anything to do with that, and it was and is pretty much the opposite for me, actually…</p>

<p>'Gate card: they don’t provide a balance every time you use it because it’s like a debit card - your current balance in your checking account isn’t displayed on every receipt you get, and you wouldn’t want it to be. There are computers free to use right in the Coop, so you can always check your balance there. Expecting college students to be able to keep an eye on their balance through the website seems quite reasonable, and there are no overdraft fees like a bank. By the time they’re 17 or 18, this really shouldn’t be difficult for a student who is able to get into a school like Colgate.</p>

<p>I believe the room clean-up fees are somewhat automated, and administered by the Residential Life office. They’re there not to get your money, but to keep people from doing things they shouldn’t be doing.</p>

<p>My experience with the Study Abroad office was fine, though I went through a Colgate program, so I don’t know about the process for non-Colgate programs.</p>

<p>Many of us worked over the winter, and I never said he had to do the same job. Even when unemployment is high, retailers hire seasonal help for the winter, and being back before other college students would give him an advantage finding a job. It’s an unfortunate circumstance, certainly, but… that’s life. Not everything always works out the way we would like. If the program can only take him in the fall and if Colgate can only fit him on campus in the spring, what are they supposed to do? They can’t just make exceptions for everyone who asks, because then they’d have 200 juniors on campus in the fall and 550 in the spring and nowhere for them to live.</p>

<p>I’m not sure why you would be dealing with the dean and not your son. I don’t even know who the Dean would be that he would deal with for Study Abroad, much less how good they are at returning calls. Sorry.</p>

<p>In general Colgate is actually pretty generous - they don’t charge for printing or have page limits. Frank is all-you-can-eat, a really good deal for those with big appetites. You have different options of meal plans after your first year, so my junior and senior year I had the 5-meals per week plan and didn’t have to pay for food I wasn’t eating. On-campus housing is guaranteed for 4 years and is maintained for free - you can call B&G and they’ll fix things for you, no cost - something I really miss now that I’m in the real world. Free storage over the summer for your stuff. You can have a car on campus all four years, for free. Free transportation (cruiser). These are all things that were not always available at many of the colleges I visited. There are so many other ways that they could get money out of students. But they don’t.</p>

<p>I really don’t think Colgate is out to get you. As with any institution, there’s a bureaucracy and policies and sometimes they can’t always do what you want them to. Yes, they need money to function, but they’re not going to make a profit through $25 fines for not cleaning up your room when you move out.</p>

<p>Simply put, it’s time to get the thread back on track. This is not the time- or the place- for personal observations about how Colgate administers dormitories or other student matters.</p>

<p>I welcome more postings from EDII candidates’ experiences, questions, interests and thoughts. And I look forward to being helpful as best I can!</p>

<p>Good luck with your college applications!</p>

<p>Good move markham. (Although I petitioned successfully for a spring semester abroad… thanks to my department offering a specific course in the fall that I could not take in the spring.)</p>

<p>I want to be hee to answer any questions or concerns!</p>

<p>Anyone got in yet?</p>

<p>They haven’t sent me decisions yet, which is weird since it’s the 16th already.</p>

<p>Hey guys - thought i’d bump this thread up since all ED II letters are mailed by today!
I am an international ED II applicant from Israel. I LOVE Colgate and REALLY REALLY hoping to get it! I have no idea what my chances are though… Anybody else waiting to hear on ED II?</p>

<p>I GOT ACCEPTED! so excited!
the envelope took 2 calendar days to come (gotta love FedEx).
it was very thin (the calendar and the few pages weren’t thick at all!).
my stats, if you are curious:
international from Israel
SAT: 1440/2180 (CR: 660 M: 780 W: 740)
TOEFL: 112
GPA: 9.2/10
a lot of ec’s, leadership and so forth…
I applied for financial aid.</p>

<p>good luck everyone!</p>

<p>Congratulations on your acceptance! And welcome to the Colgate family! You are now embarking on a life long relationship with the place in the company of scholars and doers.</p>

<p>Your time at Colgate will be truly rewarding and transformative. So embrace everything on offer fully- from day one!</p>

<p>Yes, I am a proud alumnus. It seems like yesterday that I opened my letter too…</p>

<p>Best of luck with all that awaits you freshman year!</p>

<p>Dear markham,</p>

<p>Thank you so much for your warm words! I’m very excited to become a part of the Colgate family!</p>