<p>At near my college, there is another college(called **** college) which is </p>
<p>well known for easy grading...so I plan to take writing classes at **** </p>
<p>college because my writing skills is my weak point. ..If I take writing classes </p>
<p>( only writing classes...)at **** college, does it hurt my chance to transfer </p>
<p>to Berkeley?</p>
<p>Yeah does a college reputation matter?</p>
<p>IVC7000 I go to IVC too how bout telling me what this college is? lol</p>
<p>The writing classes may transfer between colleges. It may be a matter of whether or not Berkeley has an upper-division writing requirement. If so, taking easy writing classes may not help that much because you can't improve if you aren't completely aware of a problem.</p>
<p>As an English major, I have to ask.....how does a person "transfer" anywhere without acquiring the necessary writing skills, let alone transfer to Berkeley? As a former tutor to English Comp. classes, take the nicest teacher with the hardest requirements and it'll bring the best out of you......</p>
<p>Otherwise, it's sink or swim at any good school......</p>
<p>have to agree.</p>
<p>I took the hardest english teacher yet last semester,
and i have to admit that,
she is the oNLY teacher thus far, in all my high school and 2 yrs in CCC, that made me FULLY aware of grammatical errors and such. Grammar has ALWAYS been my weak spot, and although her grading rubric is completely insane...my english has improved a lot after taking her class.</p>
<p>Take the brutal classes ^_^ brutal, but well worth it at the end. I can't believe i'm saying this, because i was b*tching and crying when taking her class... :P</p>
<p>i believe that it's good to known the basics of grammar... but if you really think about alot of the great thinkers and authors didn't use perfect grammar.</p>
<p>a professor who stress grammar isn't necessarily the best teacher.</p>
<p>yeah i totally agree.....</p>
<p>i think how a person expresses their idea is more important and strict grammar.</p>
<p>I mean it's kind of hypocritical at times.They take off alot of points when you don't follow school book grammar but they also make you read books by great authors who do not follow strict grammar rules....</p>
<p>I tend to agree as well, that a nuanced view of writing restricts expression; we can cite authors that commit horrendous grammatical atrocities. Just recently, Ronald Dworkin ended a sentence with a preposition, even though his text was hailed by the Yale Law Review.</p>
<p>However, when considering the fact that "great writers" do, indeed, commit grammatical crimes, that does not make us permitted to do them. They are "great writers" and we are not, and we are in no position to tell others that we can bend grammatical rules at will. Moreover, when we view "great writers" we view them as significant in the realm of literature, where there is more of a focus on "creativity" than "technicality."</p>
<p>With this in mind, employers do not seek the same creativity in literary writing when asking an individual to write an abstract. Employers generally desire a coherent, grammatically correct piece of writing. Grammatical rules provide a system for individuals to follow in order to surpass various obstacles in the professional world. When one becomes famous, then perhaps it might be okay to bend the rules once in a while. But from my perspective, famous writers have earned the right to write in such a manner.</p>
<p>A 7th grader cannot say "I am being creative" when committing a grammatical atrocity in the same way a famous writer can.</p>
<p>nspeds is right, however INTERNET, being an anonymous space, is GENERALLY viewed as a place of creativity and grammatical flaws are permitted.</p>
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<p>I have concerns about this. I view grammatical errors and spelling mistakes on the internet as threats to the English language as a whole. At least when "great writers" commit such errors, they know what they are doing, and are not necessarily turning our language to the worst.</p>
<p>We developed language to signal others, to coordinate their actions, and to communicate.</p>
<p>Language is meant to be a tool to PASS infomation onto others. While proses that are riddled with mistakes may not be pleasant to read, they do successfully fullfill their role as infomation medium, thus accomplishing their mission.</p>
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<p>1) It is not prose.
2) I think users of the internet bear an additional responsibility in maintaining grammatical composure, considering the internet's power to change such rules.
3) Your argument begs the question.</p>
<p>my point: language was developed to communicate, and as long as a piece of language successfully pass infomation, doesn't matter it's "F**K YOU" to transmit the infomation of anger, as long as the general public understand it, it's acceptable. I am not saying that's right, it's acceptable.</p>
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<p>Yet, we construct grammatical rules and so forth to facilitate clarity in communication.</p>
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<p>Ad populum fallacy.</p>
<p>In fact, the internet has already extensively changed the paradigms for grammatical correctness. As a constructionist, I believe that syntax is essential for conveying ideas with accuracy. The power of the written word lies in its percision. Once you have dulled it by not heeding the rules, it is not longer an effective means of communciation.</p>
<p>well, it's just my humble opinion. accuracy of informal speech isn't important to me, and internet discussion board is (in my regard) a place of informal speech (there are exceptions). but note most of us use spoken rules instead of written rules.</p>
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<p>This is usually due to laziness more than anything else.</p>
<p>it's hard to ask for diligenence when we are posting in the libaray computers, with librarian possibly come over and tell us to not use it for purpose other than research, any minute.</p>