<p>The students chosen for ELC at my school are by no means qualified to attend. Solely basing acceptance into a school shouldn't be determined by grades and grades alone. A student in my school got into Davis only because she got into ELC, she got into ELC because of her straight As. However those straight As were from some of the most useless classes ever, Algebra .5a, integrated science, constant flow of electives, etc. It's completely unfair to those students who didn't meet the qualifications for ELC due to taking much more difficult classes. And also ELC admitted far too many students from ELC destroying what ever spaces they had left for other students, non-ELC. </p>
<p>The student I earlier mentioned wasn't too high in the ranks of our school nor were her tests scores good. But other students with better test scores, rank, and grades were denied only because they weren't in ELC. </p>
<p>I don't know if ELC works the same way in your schools but to be in ELC at our school, students had to be in the top 10% of their class and then get a 4.0 in one semester of their junior year. So those students who chose rigorous courses although non honor or AP, did not get that 4.0 if they received a B. </p>
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<p>I never wanted to go to Davis though but I feel sorry for all the students at my school who here destroyed by ELC.</p>
<p>The ELC system is deeply flawed, and, according to my counselor, we’ll be the last class that has to deal with it. Apparently now the state of CA realizes how totally ridiculous the selection “process” (if you can call it that) is. This is largely because UC’s lose money each year when unqualified, unmotivated ELC students drop out.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the rant… You see, Davis was my dream school, and, my counselor thinks because of ELC, I was rejected. Get this, my class rank is: ELEVEN. Can you believe that? Just ridiculous. But you’re absolutely right! I know students who scored <1300 on the SAT, <400 on the Subject Tests, and who have not even bothered to go onto advanced math or language classes. Something tells me taking a million TA or art periods doesn’t exactly prepare you for college.</p>
<p>Am I bitter? You bet. I wouldn’t have taken four years of science, math, foreign language, etc… if I had known that class rank meant more than anything else.</p>
<p>I’d also like to ask about the origin of the ELC. I heard it was established so that schools could get away with racial profiling… Like some clause was added on to it. Is that true? If so, that also makes a ton of sense.</p>
<p>And yes, 99% of the people who are in the top 3% are some of the dullest, least interesting people I know who are annoying parent-pleasers that have nothing going for them but their ability to get an A on a test.</p>
<p>guaranteed acceptance to top 100 universities is ■■■■■■■■. All of the UC’s are in the to 100, Davis is in the top 50. There are the CSU’s, not as good of schools, which would be better candidates for ELC. Davis does not reward those students who challenge themselves in high school with AP classes and settle for a B rather than an A in a bonehead class</p>
<p>ELC is actually the top 4% and the new admissions requirements start with this years high school freshman class so the Class of 2012. The UC’s give extra points for Ap/Honors classes in 10-11th grade for ELC (up to 8 points) determination so the bottom line, her GPA was higher however it works out. Many times, the difference between ELC and Statewide context is a tenth to a hundreth of a point.</p>
<p>Don’t be so quick to judge another person’s schedule. </p>
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<p>That is incorrect. Your HS cannot make up its own rules for UC admissions. The top 4% (“ELC”) calculation is made by UC with UNcapped grades, using a-g courses only. Thus, anyone who earns A’s in more difficult classes (UC-approved honors & AP/IB) will achieve a higher ELC rank than someone who only takes College Prep a-g classes and earns A’s. Again, the ELC calculation is made by UC and not by your HS. Thus, the girl’s rank calculated by your HS is meaningless.</p>
<p>Now, you could fault Davis for agreeing to accept 100% of ELC’ers, but that’s a different issue. And, don’t forget, that many of those ELC’ers that Davis has accepted, will reject Davis and attend Cal, UCLA or a private college instead.</p>
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<p>But that IS the point. The higher UCs expect four years of all five academic subjects and mostly A’s. But taking nine classes is way beyond necessary. Much better to take 5-6 honors/AP/IB and earn A’s than a lot more courses and earn B’s.</p>
<p>its only 4% for our school. ok look if you take harder classes and dont get a’s in most of them then dont be a crybaby about it study harder or take easier classes. life isnt fair so stop being such a little *****</p>
<p>Sure some get into ELC by taking all joke classes, but the vast majority does not. The ELC eligibility is determined by weighted UC GPA, and in many schools this is enough to push top achiever over the heads of the easy class simmers. </p>
<p>People taking general classes usually have no interest to attend UC’s, and should they do so after courses like Algebra, then they probably won’t be staying too long. </p>
<p>And why only Davis? ELC affects many other UC schools including Irvine (where ELC candidates are guaranteed acceptance in non-impacted majors).</p>
<p>And eventually, ELC has little bearing if your classmates are truly the ‘top’ of their class. Most people competitive to be in the top four percent of an average high school can get into several UC schools with relative ease.</p>
<p>I’m getting a bit irritated with the bickering over what percentage of students qualify for ELC.</p>
<p>The bottom line: For most schools it is the top 4%. For schools which have a magnet or operate under a charter (with money allocated from the district), the top 10% is chosen.</p>
<p>anotherasian: Every single ELC in my school is going to enroll in Davis this Fall.
bluebayou: In each of those nine classes I received an A. It is do-able. </p>
<p>Really, the system just ****ed everyone over. I’m not black enough or poor enough or in the top 10% (despite, again, my rigorous schedule). It is what it is. But it is totally unfair.</p>
<p>ELC was the solution to affirmative action. It didn’t work that well as planned, but it’s still a much fairer system than the arbitrary affirmative action policies private schools still use.</p>
<p>Being “black” or “poor” enough has nothing to do with getting in the top four percent, you gotta understand that. I’m sorry things didn’t work out for you but moping about it is not going to help anything.</p>
<p>Note I said OR in the top 10%. I’m not so stupid as to think that my race/socio-economic has anything to do with my class rank…</p>
<p>After a weekend of doing little more than speaking with a certain admission’s officer, I was told that those three things were why many students like myself were rejected.</p>
<p>PS – Out of the ~4,800Frosh matriculants at Davis, only 900 of them were ELC, or less than 20% of total. The ELC yield at Davis is 17%, meaning that 83% of ELC acceptees choose to attend elsewhere. (Source: UC Statfinder.) </p>
<p>In contrast, approximately 50% of enrolling Frosh at Cal and UCLA are ELC, with a yield of appoximately 40% from this group.</p>