<p>“One reason is so our young people actually get to know people who are different than they are.”</p>
<p>Baloney…many advocates of AA would have you believe that in a world without AA, colleges would have no URMs at all. But think about it…if AA disappeared, all that would happen is the URMs would get into colleges which their academic credentials match up with. </p>
<p>So some of the URMs who get into Columbia and Dartmouth with AA might end up at Emory or Carnegie Mellon without AA. And some of the URMs who go to Emory or Carnegie Mellon under AA would instead go to George Washington U or Tulane. And the ones at Tulane or GWU under AA would end up at American or UMass. And so on.</p>
<p>Who says that anyone would get in by removing AA, including non-URM’s, Harvard’s acceptance rate is 6 PERCENT(!). So stop complaining and work on bettering yourself(you probably think there’s nothing that could make you any more perfect than you already are).</p>
<p>“Baloney…many advocates of AA would have you believe that in a world without AA, colleges would have no URMs at all”</p>
<p>I’ve never read that, at least not here on CC ( which is the only place I EVER hear about affirmative action). I HAVE read that you might expect a drop below what some might think a “critical” level of melanin/color (can come from a variey of races). I can only speak for me and mine, but there was DEFINATELY a critical level that I was looking for in terms of fit for my child/dollars. For my dollars, it’s more improtant than highest average GPA and SAT scores.</p>
<p>“While few would deny that kids from truly disadvantaged socio-economic backgrounds should be given preference, because they had a much higher mountain to climb, I am not sure that an hispanic kid going to a private boarding school should be given preference over an asian who grew up in a dangerous inner city neighborhood.”</p>
<p>^ Shows how much you know. Admissions offices DO view that as diversity. I had a chinese roommate at Bowdoin who only got a 1990 on her SAT and she was still accepted. She was from the Bronx and applied through questbridge, a program based on low income.</p>
<p>Yet the white girl I went to high school with who had a 4.0 and 2360 was waitlisted. </p>
<p>If you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to AA don’t talk at all.</p>
<p>"I’ve never read that [that some AA proponents think that without AA, there would be no URMs in college], at least not here on CC "</p>
<p>It was in that quote that proceeded my comment. When somebody says they want AA “so our young people actually get to know people who are different than they are,” they are saying that without AA there would be no URMs in college.</p>
<p>^" Shows how much you know. Admissions offices DO view that as diversity. I had a chinese roommate at Bowdoin who only got a 1990 on her SAT and she was still accepted. She was from the Bronx and applied through questbridge, a program based on low income."</p>
<p>You can’t refute a policy that exists at thousands of colleges with one anecdote.</p>
<p>“When somebody says they want AA “so our young people actually get to know people who are different than they are,” they are saying that without AA there would be no URMs in college”</p>
<p>Really? As much as I’d like this thread to join the others in the race FAQ purgatory, this doesn’t meet the usual CC debate benchmark. </p>
<p>It’s “subpar” !</p>
<p>Schmaltz, I hope you are a “grown up” and/or can take a joke. I’ve been criticized for saying “sub par” to a “kid” before, but I picked that up from the students! </p>
<p>20more, you applied to a dozen or so of the very top schools in this country and you never heard of Bowdoin College? It’s in the top 10 LACs. One would think that a smart student would have considered both top universities and top LACs.</p>
<p>and schmaltz… that’s the practice at all colleges. check out tufts’ “contextualizing the sats” thread. It’s not just race, if you knew anything or studied the matter you wouldn’t be as ignorant and wrong as you are right now.</p>