<p>so basically, we had an AP Euro final 2 days before the real test. he told us it was gonna be recycled questions - a ''confidence booster'' for us before the AP exam. so the week before the final, he put out all the past unit & chapter tests & last semester's final (which there was ONE COPY OF, everything else had many copies) on a table for us to study. </p>
<p>him letting us look at old tests was already generous enough, but someone had to go steal last semester's final and other chapter tests.. so instead of giving us the recycled questions, he gave us an IMPOSSIBLE final which EVERYONE failed. the highest score was a 42/150. he refused to curve it unless someone confessed, but of course, nobody did. we also had an extra credit assignment that was supposed to raise us like 1-2% (i had an 89% in the class so i could've failed the final and still had a decent grade which i could get to an A with assignments after the AP. so i didn't do the extra credit). </p>
<p>so he said, okay. NO CURVE, NO EXTRA CREDIT. </p>
<p>now i have a freaking 83% in the class and he said there's NO WAY IN HELL i can get that up to an A by the end of the semester. i just think it's freaking RIDICULOUS how we ALL have to suffer because of that one friggin MORON. that one person ruined my chances of getting an A in the class, which i really really needed. ugh. now the only person who has an A is this guy in my class who's life = EDUCATION. he has no life outside of school & basically is crazy about studying. he won't even TALK to you because every minute wasted talking is a minute he could've used in his textbook, lol. he was yugioh champion for 2nd place or something, too. so yeah.</p>
<p>idk if it's just me, but is this fair? /rant -__- i just think it's extremely retarded that we have no chances of getting an A because of that one STUPID person.</p>
<p>The guy who stole the tests was stupid, yes. But I think your teacher's being even stupider by making everyone else suffer the consequences. The perpetrator will be even less likely to speak up, since he/she now has the blame for causing a massive grade scare among all the students. I can understand that cheating should be dealt with strictly, but not at the expense of all the other students.</p>
<p>i highly doubt the person who stole it is going to come out & fess up. it's been over a week and nothing yet.. god. i'm just so mad at my teacher for doing this to us. a lot of us had high hopes for good grades this semester, and it sucks that everything's ruined because of one person's stupid actions.</p>
<p>and noo, it's not me! haha. it was crazy, though. everyone was accusing everyone and it was just really bad drama at school for the past week.</p>
<p>I remember we once had a teacher who did something similar to that, but at least your teacher let you take that IMPOSSIBLE test. One student did something wrong in class and (same thing!), so the teacher said "Everyone in class will fail this test, even if they aced it." and that is AFTER we took the test .. I regretted studying. So, what did we do?
All of us "good" students went to the teacher and told her that it was not our fault that some idiot did something really stupid and won't admit it! We are good students at least give us another chance, and we’re sure that you know we won't do something like that...
And she did what was fair: she let us retake the test.</p>
<p>Yes, if this happened in my school
First) Smart/good students would individually address it
Second) Smart/good students and their friends would address it collectively
Third) Address it again
Fourth) Get parents involved with teacher
Fifth) Students and parents talk to princaple</p>
<p>many, many good students approached him and one girl even cried over it, lol. </p>
<p>thanks everyone for the input. things look pretty bleak right now, but if everything stays this way at the end of the semester, i think i might talk to the principal or something. it's just not fair.</p>
<p>but can't they say, "oh, well it's your fault for not passing the IMPOSSIBLE test that he gave you?" i wouldn't know what to say to that, except that he TOLD US he was going to give us the recycled question final until the night before we heard rumors about our original final being cancelled. and it's not like i can blame him for not curving it, so yeah..</p>
<p>blah. -__- i would complain to the principal except i'm afraid the teacher won't like me anymore and i'm gonna have him for AP gov senior year.. lol :( don't wanna be on his bad side. argh! and i'm not sure if any other students are brave enough to go to the principal.. </p>
<p>yasmine - ohh wow. see, i'd ask that too but he said "me counting your extra credit assignment is more than enough. you're not getting a curve, you're not getting anything" and he's serious. he literally won't help us out. i wish he'd just let everything go because nobody's going to come forward and now everyone has to suffer because of it.</p>
<p>Visit your advisor, ask them to help by talking with the teacher. </p>
<p>Your teacher feels burned, he trusted everybody before in your description, now burned he trusts no one. Understand how he's feeling, he trusted all his students and somebody smoked him. It could very well be that he feels really hurt by the whole thing. </p>
<p>Maybe when you start a conversation with him rather than concentrating on the "I feel" or the "me's", try this tact. "I know how "you must feel" Mr. x. It must feel terrible that a student violated your trust, but you need to know the majority of students value your trust and hope to have it again. What can we do to re earn your trust? "</p>
<p>He's a person, no one likes to get burned, especially when trust is involved. Was he an awful teacher before this or OK? Try kindness first,while at the same time speaking with your advisor. Start putting ducks in a row for a parent/teacher/principal meeting as a last resort. Grades can be changed, tests can be thrown out, a teacher can change their mind when the anger passes. Can you understand why he's upset? Can you help him see his rational for punishing the thief is heavy handed?</p>
<p>I think it's a great idea to punish everyone. Otherwise the person who actually stole it wouldn't learn a lesson. He knows he's making everyone suffer, hopefully it changes his outlook on cheating.</p>
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<p>Probably not - if he cared about everyone else suffering he would have fessed up - obviously he does not care so long as he is not caught.</p>
<p>My kid had a situation a few weeks ago. Teacher did the same thing writing a new test impossible to pass (included things they had never covered and were not on the syllabus) - basically a punishment test though he knew there was only one guilty party (slightly different situation to the OP and he knew the majority of the kids that had to retake the test were not guilty of anything). Killed a lot of grades and caused a lot of very bad feelings. I am sure the culprit in this case does not give a darn so long as no one can ever prove it was him. The kids tried talking to the teacher but he really did not care and has changed toward the whole class. I can understand a teacher being really upset by someone cheating - but I don't agree with punishing everyone.</p>
<p>You should NEVER punish a group just because of an individual. This just shows that the teacher is too lazy to actually try and hunt down the real criminal.</p>
<p>Find out yourself who it is, and snitch. I normally say snitches get stitches, but if that was the case I would either kick his ass or give the teacher a hint on who did it.</p>
<p>Oh **** off, Aron.... Since when does punishing a whole group of students to maybe teach one bad seed a lesson justifiable? Are you a communist?</p>
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Oh **** off, Aron.... Since when does punishing a whole group of students to maybe teach one bad seed a lesson justifiable? Are you a communist?
<p>Lol, since when is sharing my opinion a bad thing? Don't tell me to f-off. I think people take school too seriously, it's about learning about life, it's not about what grades you recieve while there. I thought it was a good opportunity to teach a student a real-life lesson, that your actions not only affect you, but everyone around you.</p>