Excessive W's

<p>Thanks kme!</p>

<p>10-20 W’s does seem a bit much. But hell, cheers to all who are trying to get through college under such dreadful circumstances. It must be a pain to redo all of that. </p>

<p>Of course, there’s probably also some stone cold liars in the mix. Don’t know how many of them actually get into a university…</p>

<p>As for grad school, I’ve HEARD that’s where W’s, transferring into uncompetitive programs with low GPA’s, taking a long time to transfer, and lack of involvement outside the classroom all catch up to you. All hear-say though, I really don’t know for sure.</p>

<p>The only experience I have with graduate school is having gone to medical school which is actually a professional school but I think other professional schools like law schools and MBA programs as well as academic degree graduate programs are probably similar to medical schools when evaluating applicants. I had one W during my four years as an undergraduate. What I was told by admissions officers at medical schools I applied to and was accepted at is that 1-2 Ws in four years of college is not going to hurt you, 3-5 would definitely be a cause for concern and would hurt your chances, 10 or more Ws in four years would absolutely disqualify you for any kind of consideration for admission.</p>

<p>Graduate and Professional schools generally take the position that students do not withdraw from classes that they are doing well in, they withdraw from classes that they are failing.</p>

<p>Students in CCCs should be aware that even though once they transfer to a UC they start with a clean slate at that UC, when applying to graduate or professional school they will have to list all the courses they took at their CCC and 10 Ws in lower division courses will make admission to graduate or professional school extremely unlikely.</p>

<p>@Lem … so would I still have to explain to UCB my one W and NP’s when I apply to graduate school, even if they will be from my sophmore year at a CC? It’s not a problem for me to do so, seeing as how I was sick and had to take some time off. I was under the assumption that my junior and senior years at UCD would carry more weight? </p>

<p>Thanks for the info btw! If there is anything else you think I should know about grad school, the GRE, etc, please send it my way.</p>

<p>Actually, just thinking, my cousin goes to Berkeley Law (after also doing her undergrad there - dispels myth that UG @ Cal students don’t get into G programs there). She had 8 Ws before transferring, but none from her time at Cal.</p>

<p>2 of my friends are now in Grad Bio programs at UCI (also transfers and did UG @ SD & UCI). He had 12 Ws from CC and she had 10. Though who knows, maybe they were all exceptional cases of acceptance. Surely, it’d be more competitive if you’re applying to a top program.</p>

<p>Somewhat unrelated, but my aunt also failed out of college in the 90s and ended up going back to school 10 years later and is now about to finish up her Ph.D at UVA. Anything can happen. Don’t discount yourself just based on past history. Transfers can still be game changers.</p>

<p>Obviously, unexplained Ws are going to hurt your chances anywhere. Yet, I think it’s better if you have more years behind you in which you didn’t accumulate ANY Ws. AKA, don’t get any more!</p>

<p>Are B’s better than W’s??? I am trying to get in to UCLA as a psych major…and I have a 3.72ish.</p>

<p>^???</p>

<p>can’t be serious.</p>

<p>It depends, if it is a course that is offered yearly or that it is very difficult (Calculus - Ochem - Physics - etc.), I’d definitely cram and bust my a$$ to get a high B and hope for an A if the instructor curves. If it’s just a normal Gen-Ed that offers 3-4 times a year, I’d rather take a W and take it again next sem with a different instructor :D</p>

<p>It’s a general education class. Do we need one history class to graduate from a UC?</p>

<p>@Statmanaggie, your biggest problem by far is going to be your NPs. When graduate and professional schools calculate your GPA they will treat each NP as an F whether you received it in CC or a four year university. To give you an idea of what that does to your GPA, suppose one semester you took four three unit classes and received an A in three courses and an NP in one. Your GPA for that semester would be 36/12 = 3.00. If you took five three unit classes and had an A in four and one NP, your GPA would be 3.2. To get back to a 3.5 you would need seven A grades for each NP.</p>

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Yes, unless you have taken a year of American history in high school, and I think most people have…
I have a couple of Bs in Gen-Ed. Never study for them until 30’min bf test, cram like crazzy and always get a B or sometimes luckily, an A lol</p>

<p>Sweet. Thaaanks snipehunter. =]
What’s your GPA and major??</p>

<p>Me? 3.78 and computer science :smiley: aiming for LA, SD, SC (top choice since it’s near home lol), and Irvine</p>

<p>That’s amazinggg. I hope you get in everywhere you apply =]</p>

<p>I know I’m bumping an old thread, but how did this affect your employment/internship opportunities killmyentourage and calbear?</p>