<p>Exeter admissions noted in the Exonian yesterday that they have still not logged all applications due to heavy mail volume, but expect numbers "rather similar to last year" - 2600 applications for 330 spots, and based on interviews, expects "another year of record quality."</p>
<p>I bet that a lot of applicants come from Asia. People there are crazy about the school. It is rumored that there is a quota for international students.</p>
<p>Not a quota, just an effort to build a well balanced class from a number of attributes including geographical area. It just gets interpreted as a quota.</p>
<p>Of the 330 slots, any sense for how many at each grade level? My child is applying to the sophomore year so I’m specifically curious about the sophomore level.</p>
<p>My child is American but grew up her entire life outside the country - she’s only been back here these last 18 months. Hoping (praying) that is a good enough hook - that she has thrived despite needing to navigate multiple mother-tongues and cultures.</p>
<p>Also, as for the ~quota on foreigners - does that equate to a limiting or enabling factor? Wondering what the acceptance rate is for a foreigner vs. an American. Wondering if our daughter’s chances would have been different had we applied from overseas for her freshman year.</p>
<p>In general, it’s more difficult to get in from overseas with the possible exception of students from countries that rarely send anyone to bs. At any rate, if you were American living overseas, I don’t think your daughter would count as an international student. Still, the exposure to multiple cultures/languages is a plus at Exeter. </p>
<p>Exeter’s Fact Book has some of the stats you’re looking for: </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.exeter.edu/documents/facts_2012_web.pdf[/url]”>http://www.exeter.edu/documents/facts_2012_web.pdf</a></p>
<p>According to The Exonian last April (sorry Exie, it’s the only place I could find this info. 
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<p>"The 319 new Exonians who will attend the Academy for next year represent a yield of 69.7 percent, Director of Admissions Michael Gary said Wednesday.</p>
<p>Of the total, 189 are preps, 61 are new lowers, 37 are new uppers, 32 are new seniors and 29 are post-graduates."</p>
<p>I don’t have the admit. rate broken down by class, but that will give you a general idea.</p>
<p>As stated on a piece of paper given to me by Exeter’s Director of Admission:</p>
<p>Final Applications: …2964
Prep (9th Grade): …1684
Lower (10th Grade): …627
Upper (11th Grade): …375
Senior: …75
Poste Graduate: …203</p>
<p>Admitted: 18.5%</p>
<p>From Public Schools: 51%
From Private Schools: 49%</p>
<p>New Students:
Prep (91 M, 102 F)…193
Lower (30 M, 33 F)…63
Upper (22 M, 18F)…40
Senior (33 M, 4F)…37</p>
<p>So, for students applying as new Lowers (like myself), the acceptance rate is about 10%.</p>
<p>How do you calculate the acceptance rate at about 10%?</p>
<p>The overall yield is appoximately 70%. To matriculate 63 new Lowers, they would have had to accept approximately 90 Lower applicants, which is more like 15%.</p>
<p>The Prep acceptance rate works out to about 17%</p>
<p>The Senior admit rate is crazy high, I wonder if these are star athletes?</p>
<p>@f2000sa,</p>
<p>Of course there is a quota for int’ls, just as there is a quota for % of boys and % of girls</p>
<p>Some very surprising conclusions can be gleaned from these stats. While your chances of enrollment in the 9th, 10th, or 11th grades are pretty much the same (10-11%), there is a spectacularly large increase in your chances if you apply for the 12th grade: essentially, it’s a 50:50 coin toss!!!</p>
<p>Percentage enrollment (not the same thing as Admission rate)
Prep (9) 11.5%
Lower (10) 10.1%
Upper (11) 10.7%
Senior (12) 49.3%</p>
<p>Sicne the yield figures are a composite across all four years, a firm conclusion cannot be made about the chances of acceptance; however, if one assumes that yield is higher for Lower, Uppers, and Seniors, then, the acceptance rate for Preps is probably in the range of 18-19%</p>
<p>Weatherby, as the data is a composite across 4 years, it has more statistical validity than a snapshot from a single year. My conclusion remains the same. There is a dramatically greater chance of being admitted as a Senior.</p>
<p>GMTplus7: what is up with the bold? </p>
<p>I am not arguing with you and as a matter of fact, your bolded text merely reiterates and expands upon a point that I made in post #7.</p>
<p>My main point: Although 18% admittance rate is low, it is not 10% as stated in post #6.</p>
<p>Weatherby- And that would be my mistake. I mistook “New Students” as “Accepted Students who had not matriculated”.</p>
<p>Note there is no post grads statistic for admitted students; it looks like the admitted seniors are a combination of the postgrads and senior applications (which makes sense since postgrads get diplomas from Exeter)–which puts the final admit rate for that class about where the others are.</p>
<p>Can i just check I’ve got this right, its kinda confusing
percentage enrollment= enrolled students/number applied
yield= number accepted/number who enroll
Acceptance rate= (number enrolled/yield)/applications</p>
<p>^done all of this as decimals, not sure if it makes a difference right now because I’m way too tired to wrap my head around this thing</p>
<p>I think it’s:</p>
<p>Yield/Matriculation/Enrollment Percentage= # enrolled/# applied.
Acceptance rate= # accepted (not number matriculated)/# applied.</p>
<p>I believe yield/matriculation/enrollment percentage are just different names for the same thing.</p>
<p>Hey @classicalmama - you’ve always done pretty good in my book. That’s where I’d have gone to get the stats since I misplaced the correspondance they sent at the end of last year. I usually get a break down by country but tend to recycle it after I read it.</p>
<p>Great stats Azpandaman and everyone! Given the depth of knowledge here on the board, let me ask a few others:</p>
<p>A. Of the ++2,900 applicants, any sense for the number/percentage of those who’s SSAT score or grades are so low they were not realistic candidates? For example, I would think kids that score 50% on the SSAT shouldn’t be applying to PEA. To what degree does PEA get these types of applications that skew the acceptance rates lower?</p>
<p>B. I’m guessing PEA and the rest are getting flooded with applications from China/HK/South Korea and the like. How do the acceptance rates compare between a Chinese student and an American student, all things being equal? (I’m sure this is a sensitive question … just wondering if anyone has insight.)</p>
<p>C. From the stats it appears that there is about a 30% turnover between the freshman and sophomore class. In other words, of the ~290 admitted as freshman, ~60 did not return for their sophomore year … is that accurate?</p>
<p>Thanks all!</p>
<p>inchoathere- I’ll take a stab at your questions:</p>
<p>a. I don’t think anyone but an AO can answer that or a parent of an Exeter student who scored the score that you mentioned (as that would show that Exeter accepts students with scores that low).</p>
<p>b. My sheet of paper tells me that 27% of the student body is Asian, 10% is Black, 48% is Caucasian, 7% is Hispanic/Latino, Less than 1% is Native American, and 8% is Unknown.</p>
<p>c. I don’t think it’s completely accurate. Here’s what handy paper tells me:</p>
<p>Enrolled students (so # of students total):</p>
<p>Prep…193
Lower…261
Upper…293
Senior+PG…315</p>
<p>As you can see, the number increases each year. They had 63 new Lowers, subtract that from 261, you have 198 returning Preps. which I would guess means that all/almost all of their preps came back for their sophomore year. They make sure to leave enough space open for new students to come in in later years.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>@inchoatehere, my guesses and observations as a parent:</p>
<p>A. I would not be surprised if a fair number of kids who apply to PEA do have “SSAT score or grades [that] are so low they were not realistic candidates”. But as azpandaman points out, only the AO’s know for sure.</p>
<p>There are economies of scale when filling out multiple applications, so why not fill out one more application to a “reach” school? Ask yourself why does Harvard get 35000 applicants a year—do you think all the 35000 are National Merit finalists? No. </p>
<p>B. PEA is not an international school with a mission to educate the children of foreign nationals, so why should one expect the admit rates for over-represented foreign countries be higher than that for American students? There’s nothing “sensitive” about that. The int’l students are present at the school to expand the global experience of the American students. If I were running PEA, I would want student representation from 30 different foreign countries, and not 30 kids with high SSAT scores all from the same foreign country.</p>
<p>There are BS’s in the U.S. that cater to int’l students with more family money than academic credentials. PEA is not one of them. </p>
<p>C. Many (if not all) BS increase their class size significantly (nearly doubling) going from Freshman to Sophomore year. As the kids largely apply to start high school, keep in mind that different school districts in the U.S. have different middle school grades. Some middle schools go to grade 8; some go to grade 9.</p>