<p>I don't understand why people are all over this. What business do we have in telling other parents what they should or should not do in with own families?
I know that we're just "trying to help," but some of the comments appear more judgmental and patronizing than helpful.</p>
<p>Well, jmleadpipe and McGirt, I am sorry if you feel that way. There are a lot of things I could say in response, but others have said them already. Perhaps you should listen to your peers who seem to get it.</p>
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<p>Congrats on the successful interviews, the admissions etc. May everyone have successful careers in whatever paths you decide to follow.</p>
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Fiancee, actually.</p>
<p>I guess I didn't see it as such a big deal -- he's a procrastinator and was taking a ridiculous courseload, and I'm not and wasn't, so I registered him in the computer system and filled out his biographical information. I also did the dishes that night -- perhaps I should make him wash his own dishes too? But should I take out my own half of the trash?</p>
<p>I think the whole parent debate stems also on the age of the prospective grad student. I'm guessing that a lot of the prospective phd students have some life experience working, perhaps already raising a family, etc. One's perspectives change a great deal after certain life events. When I was 20, I refused to ask for help (thus my letting my 20-some year old do this for himself). But if, for some miracle, he asks for my opinion or help, you better believe I'm going to give it. I've seen too much and made to many mistakes in the past myself not to at least try to spare him from making those same mistakes and getting hurt in the process. </p>
<p>I think this all hinges on the degree to which a parent is involved. I would bet that there are students here who perhaps wish that their parents were more involved. Everyone can use a little help once in awhile. And I'd bet that there are students that think, "Why can't my parents stay out of my life?" This too is a reasonable request up to a point, yet they WILL understand it someday when they themselves become parents. I guarantee it.....</p>
<p>CCMAD- I see you got the acceptance at Baylor....congrats!!!</p>
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<p>I never told her how to raise her family, so let's not over-dramatize my comments. In fact, I'm sure most moms would do the same thing if asked by their kids.</p>
<p>I see no problem with going to your parents for advice, but the line is draw when they start doing your work for you. You are a grown-up. Is she going to write his papers for him in grad school too?</p>
<p>This is WAY off topic, so let's just let it go. She can do whatever she wants, I just don't agree with it</p>
<p>Sure I am. I'll do it while I am burping him and changing his diaper.</p>
<p>You've made it MORE than clear you don't agree. I really don't need nor want your approval OR your advice. Perhaps you should re-read my original post of why I helped him. I did the BIOGRAPHICAL info. HE did ALL the brain work on the application -the SOP, the LOR, the short answers. </p>
<p>You want to continue on your path of criticizing MY child and MY decisions as parent -go right ahead. He AND I can stand the scrutiny.You say that isn't what you meant, but I am not the only person here who interpreted your comments as exactly that. You say you want to "let it go," yet take a parting shot on your way out the door. Care to continue? </p>
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<p>Back on topic, congrats again to all.</p>
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<p>I wasn't even replying to you. I was replying to the person who made it sound like I was attacking your right to choose how to raise your family. If I "cared to continue" arguing, I would have addressed you comments.</p>
<p>mollie- that's why I brought you up as an example. I knew you'd been recieved well by the community here, and most people probably saw your fiancee as someone who was lucky to get so much support from you! I thought it relevant for people to think why parents helping their kids bothered them but you helping your fiancee didn't.</p>
<p>So,McGirt, it is okay to talk ABOUT me, criticize me, make a blanket statement on how ALL parents should act because of YOUR personal preference that YOURS not help YOU, but when I NAIL you for your comments ABOUT ME, you say, "You weren't replying to me." Well, you just DID. I am glad you don't wish to continue, but I am a generous person, and will be more than willing to donate the shovel if you should choose to dig a bigger hole for yourself.</p>
<p>Anyone heard from any other schools?</p>
<p>I still haven't heard from a single one. Art schools are lame when it comes to administrative duties... I'm hoping to get my first response any day now, but I don't expect to have all of them in until April!</p>
<p>Any one heard from Georgia Tech?</p>
<p>NJBeagle,</p>
<p>Yeah, youre probably right about not being too involved in your kids life. I just wish my mom would show her support in the same way you do, namely by going on an internet message board destined for college aged students, making a huge scene about her childs admissions than chewing out every poster who questions her level of involvment...</p>
<p>Honestly, step back from the keyboard for a minute and think about what youre doing. You have every right to raise your kid in the way you see fit, but that doesn't excuse unabashed fits of childish immaturity.</p>
<p>jmleadpipe: There are several posts in different threads where you've basically been trolling. You won't see it that way of course but you're rubbing people the wrong way.</p>
<p>What's wrong with having parents help out? Isn't it worse to feel so insecure about your independence that you have to prove it at every opportunity?</p>
<p>It appears as though a new thread was developed for the purposes of discussing the parental role in grad school admissions. JM, thank you for your advice. One should never offer up advice which they wouldn't follow themselves. I am no longer going to comment on my parental decisions in this forum. Those who wish to should take this discussion elsewhere and allow this thread to go back to its original intention.</p>
<p>OOH! I just got invited for an interview at UW! Their overall acceptance rate to my program is around 10%, but having made it through the first cut brings my chances up to 42%. And I'd say considerably more, since I'm a damn good interviewee and I'll have lots of great new work to show them from the past month or so. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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So,McGirt, it is okay to talk ABOUT me, criticize me, make a blanket statement on how ALL parents should act because of YOUR personal preference that YOURS not help YOU, but when I NAIL you for your comments ABOUT ME, you say, "You weren't replying to me." Well, you just DID. I am glad you don't wish to continue, but I am a generous person, and will be more than willing to donate the shovel if you should choose to dig a bigger hole for yourself.
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<p>I said I wasn't replying to you because I wasn't. Check which quote I was replying to.</p>
<p>I'm not really sure how you "NAILED" me. I was going to not continue because I didn't want to be disrespectful to you since I don't think this is that kind of discussion. You seem to want to argue about it, but I'll only discuss it if you can settle yourself and be a rational adult. No need to type capital letters (the internet equivalent of yelling) every other sentence.</p>
<p>I'm interested in what hole I have been digging. I have never backtracked on what I said. Your son should have taking responsibility and done his own work.</p>
<p>If you want to continue, let me know in what forum.</p>
<p>NJBeagle,</p>
<p>I will follow my own advice when and if I have children. But for the moment, I am a 20 year old colege student with no children of my own, which pretty much absolves me of all duties you are (or should be) bound by when it comes to deling with your kids college application. I'm glad to hear you wont be talking about it anymore, though. Thats a smarter move on your part than you might imagine.</p>
<p>Volscio,</p>
<p>Get over it. Its the internet, and we are on a message board. If I rub you the wrong way, you can always turn your monitor off.</p>
<p>I am sorry, McGirt, if you thought I was yelling. I was capitalizing for emphasis. It was not my intention to yell. I already thought you had been disrespectful, but since you say you weren't trying to be, I will take you at your word and I am sorry for thinking you were. I do not wish to continue -I meant the CC forum, not just the grad school portion. I am sorry if that was vague. I won't even challenge you on your baseless assumptions about my son --I'll leave the discussion content to know that I know him and you don't.
Good luck on your future endeavors.</p>
<p>JM,</p>
<p>I meant that It would be hypocritical of me not to follow my own advice and continue the discussion. I wish you well on your future endeavors as well.</p>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>la la la, still waiting..</p>
<p>Come on Berkeley EECS, Stanford EE, and MIT EECS!</p>
<p>Anyone here from these departments?</p>