Fall 2005 USNEWS Rankings!

<p>Ru kidding ppl, Chicago will by far get the biggest boost. On the last US News, its selectivity rank was 24. Without their 40 percent acceptance rate factored in the equation, it will JUMP. I think that Cornell, JHU, Northwestern will not be affected by much. Their acceptance rates hover around high 20s and SAT averages around 1390-1400 SAT scores. WUSTL will DROP tremendously if this is true b/c their selectivity will go down by a lot and maybe this will cuase them to stop the whole marketing scheme to get 50,000 application so that one day their acceptance rate is 5 percent.</p>

<p>First of all, US News uses the data for last year's numbers and not this year's data for this upcoming issue of US News. Therefore, Cornell will read 1290-1490, JHU 1300-1490, Northwestern, 1320-1500, and so on (from Princeton Review and College Board). These are btw 25-75 percentile ranges and idk how they accurate they are b/c colleges can manipulate them very easily. For example, some schools that use the ACT extensively may only report some SAT scores (the higher ones) and forget about the other ones. Also, the fact that JHU increased its SAT average by a whopping 40 pts in one year seems a little suspect to me. I mean, how is this possible?? It usually takes a good 3 years to see an increase like that from most schools. I mean, you can take a calculator and see with yourself that, that means that every kid there has a score that is 40 pts higher than their counterpart from last year. I find that really hard to believe.</p>

<p>Cute post, Devil May Cry.</p>

<p>Does anyone actually have a source that percent admitted will actually be dropped in US NEWs or is this just speculation?</p>

<p>If its true I predict</p>

<p>HY will be at the top
Princeton will move slightly down
Duke will go slightly up
Penn will stay the same
Stanford will move slightly down
Caltech will move up
Dartmouth will move up one spot
Columbia will be down one spot
Northwestern, JHU, Cornell, Chicago will all move up
Brown will be around 13
WUSTL will fall to around 13-15</p>

<p>Stanford moves down? Princeton moves down? You're off your rocker.</p>

<p>Off my rocker? WOW people are so quick to judge.</p>

<p>Princeton/ Stanford's SAT scores and top 10% figures are below their current selectivity score, largely due to percent accepted. I see Princeton at 3 for this reason, although Stanford will probably change less and be higher or equal to Penn/ Duke.</p>

<p>Let me clarify</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Columbia
10.Chicago</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>WUSTL</li>
</ol>

<p>Penn and Duke are nowhere near the level of STanford. Plus, MIT suddenly got kicked out of the top 15?</p>

<p>My predictions for the 2006 USNWR:</p>

<h1>1 Harvard</h1>

<h1>1 Princeton</h1>

<h1>1 Yale</h1>

<h1>4 Stanford University</h1>

<h1>4 MIT</h1>

<h1>6 CalTech</h1>

<h1>6 Duke</h1>

<h1>8 Penn</h1>

<h1>9 Dartmouth</h1>

<h1>10 Columbia</h1>

<h1>11 Chicago</h1>

<h1>12 Cornell</h1>

<h1>12 Johns Hopkins</h1>

<h1>12 Northwestern</h1>

<h1>15 Brown</h1>

<h1>16 Washington U.</h1>

<h1>17 Rice</h1>

<h1>18 Vanderbilt</h1>

<h1>18 Emory</h1>

<h1>20 Notre Dame</h1>

<h1>21 Cal</h1>

<h1>22 Michigan</h1>

<h1>22 UVA</h1>

<h1>24 CMU</h1>

<h1>25 UCLA</h1>

<p>I totally agree with you Gutrade. I am not the guy making up the methodology, I am just saying what I think the rankings will be next year. MIT is probably 3-4.</p>

<p>It seems SAT & Class rank will figure more powerfully this year, thus:</p>

<h1>1 Harvard</h1>

<h1>2 Princeton</h1>

<h1>3 Yale</h1>

<h1>4 MIT</h1>

<h1>5 Cal Tech</h1>

<h1>6 Stanford</h1>

<h1>7 Dartmouth</h1>

<h1>8 Duke</h1>

<h1>9 Columbia</h1>

<h1>9 Chicago</h1>

<h1>11 Penn</h1>

<h1>11 Northwestern</h1>

<h1>13 Cornell</h1>

<h1>13 Johns Hopkins</h1>

<h1>15 Brown</h1>

<h1>16 Rice</h1>

<h1>17 Vanderbilt</h1>

<h1>18 Emory</h1>

<h1>19 Cal</h1>

<h1>20 Michigan</h1>

<h1>21 Georgetown</h1>

<h1>22 UVA</h1>

<h1>23 Washington U.</h1>

<h1>24 Carnegie Mellon</h1>

<h1>25 Tufts</h1>

<p>just a wild guess, for the fun of it.</p>

<p>my predictions:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Hopkins</li>
<li>WUSTL</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Cal</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Carngie Mellon</li>
<li>GTown</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
</ol>

<p>Forgot Brown....</p>

<p>State schools such as Cal and Michigan will benefit tremendously from this b/c usually they have around 90-100 percent of the student body being from the top 10 percent of their class. Therefore, at least michigan will not be penalized with having to fill a large student class and its high acceptance rate of 55 percent will not be a negative for them.</p>

<p>My Predictions:
1-4: Some order of HPYS
5. MIT
6. Cal
7-9: Penn, Duke, Columbia
10. Dartmouth
11-14: Would probably be some combo of Chicago, NU, Cornell, and Brown</p>

<p>I predict that Northwestern will remain best in the Midwest!!! (Down with Chicago!)</p>

<p>That is a very "safe" prediction lol. I do no think anyone will steel the thunder from NW.</p>

<p>The only thing keeping NU above Chicago was selectivity. With the new methodology, Chicago will probably tie or surpass NU in the rankings.</p>

<p>Northwestern's selectivity rank will still beat the U of Chicago. I do not think you guys realize this but the acceptance rate was only 10 percent of the 15 percent weight given to the selectivity. Therefore, acceptance rate was 1.5 percent of the total ranking. That is not a big deal. What destroys Chicago's selectivity ranking besides acceptance rate, is percentage of students in the top 10 percent of their high school (40 percent of the 15 percent weight). Both Chicago and JHU have figures that are in the 75-80 percent range while Northwestern and Cornell are in the 80-90 percent range.</p>

<p>Just curious, but how do accurate do you ppl think of those reported SAT ranges that colleges report. I mean can't they be manipulated very easily???</p>