<p>Part of this informed rumor, part has been confirmed:</p>
<p>Fall 2007 Average SAT Scores (enrolled students):</p>
<p>FSU: 1240 (after drop/add)
UF 1280 (after drop/add)
UCF: 1217 (probably before drop/add)
USF: 1150 (unknown interval)</p>
<p>If FSU improves it's College of Engineering...it will give UF even more serious competition in FTIC quality. Engineering students typically present very good credentials.</p>
<p>New SAT or Old?</p>
<p>They mean the verbal and math scores only (out of 1600). They are still not counting the writing score.</p>
<p>I think the UCF number is very close, I heard 1216.</p>
<p>The scores are amazing and they continue to go up every year. Each school is represented by a large cross section of kids with very high levels of performance.</p>
<p>I was curious where these scores stand with respect to the total population of Florida College bound seniors, so I went to college board and looked at the Florida report</p>
<p>The way I read this the 50th percentile is around 1017 and the 75th percentile is 1140, these scores are well beyond that. I didn't do the ACT conversion, but I'd expect that they are well into the 80's and possible 90's after the SAT is converted.</p>
<p>Does anybody have cross-admit stats for the three state schools? I know FSU has been really stingy on admission the past two years so I'm wondering how many accepted admission to Florida State over Florida.</p>
<p>If a student is interested in the strong areas of FSU (actuarial science, risk and insurance, meteorology, the arts, film, hospitality, criminology, stats, certain hard sciences, political science, social sciences, etc) they almost always know FSU's a better place and their decision is easy.</p>
<p>I've never heard of anyone compiling numbers on this.</p>
<p>Exactly parent2noles. the only problem, as I stated in another thread, is that the 'sexy' academic disciplines that attract the majority of students (business, engineering, law, med, other professional fields) have a stronger base at UF than any of the other state schools. In no way am I taking away from FSU's programs in an of these areas (seeing as their business and law schools are more than decent) but the fact of the matter is that most kids are going to open the USNews and look at a little number ranking to each school's name and make their decision solely based on that. Unfortunately the strength of certain programs has A LOT to do with that.</p>
<p>This is one reason why I post information about FSU - to limit such generalizations - which many times are totally wrong. FSU actually has some stellar "sexy" areas that are overlooked by students in these fields. </p>
<p>For example, FSU has the (currently) overall second best B school in Florida, and that may be further split into the areas where FSU is clearly superior to UF (for example). Likewise, UF has some business areas that are better than FSU. I don't see too much change at the moment, but FSU's B-School dean is a fantastic, energetic person who is pushing hard for universal excellence. Expect rankings to further narrow between UF's and FSU's B-Schools. A student would do well to be admitted to either.</p>
<p>Law, for instance, is probably now and will be stronger at FSU where the rankings lag UF law by a few spots due to UF having an older program. Here FSU attracts the better students as reflected by LSAT scores at least. Over time the rankings will catch up, which in the main are based on peer assessment and the last to reflect change.</p>
<p>Engineering is a UF strength and one where FSU must change the structure of their COE to better compete. I believe this is happening now, but here FSU needs to improve. It must be said though that the engineering research foundation at FSU looks excellent and is already in place, just waiting for the program to adjust.</p>
<p>Medicine is a different, yet passionate field as I am finding out. For example, excellent medical candidates may be admitted to UF (which currently has somewhat higher stats than FSU) but rejected at FSU. I know some students in this area now and it all depends what the med school wants at the time. Some students are completely committed to the medical philosophy of one school and simply refuse to even apply, though they qualify, to another fine allopathic school. It's a bit of a mystery. While med school in general has some measure of prestige most med hopefuls are very pragmatic about their chances and much less worried about prestige than simply being admitted.</p>
<p>FSU's nationally ranked programs are partially listed here: <a href="http://fsu.edu/highlights/rankings.html%5B/url%5D">http://fsu.edu/highlights/rankings.html</a></p>
<p>Solid post, parent. Nice to see FSU ranking so high in several areas.</p>
<p>I think the school is definitely on the way up and the margin is rapidly shrinking with UF. The school desperately needs to improve its engineering, however. They can start by cutting ties with FAMU and opening up an engineering program specific only to FSU. Since I'd assume that the overall caliber of student is greater at FSU, this should undoubtedly improve student profile, attract better professors, and increase rankings.</p>
<p>Amen to that. As an alumnus of FSU I've written dozens of emails to the administration about the drag FAMU is to FSU's push for excellence in engineering. It's not that FAMU is bad, but they have different priorities than FSU and thus common focus diverges and the program suffers relative to other engineering schools in the state.</p>