<p>IMPOSSIBLE REACH:
Stanford</p>
<p>HIGHLY UNLIKELY REACH:
Duke
Rice
Brown
Penn</p>
<p>MAJOR REACH:
Cornell
Northwestern
Cal-Berkley
Georgetown</p>
<p>REACH:
Notre Dame
North Carolina
UCLA
Virginia</p>
<p>LESSER REACH:
USC
Boston College</p>
<p>MID:
Michigan (IN STATE)
Illinois
Wisconsin</p>
<p>SAFETY:
Florida
Texas
Maryland
Miami (FL)
Miami (OH)
Minnesota
Pittsburgh</p>
<p>Thanks for the new list... that really helps.</p>
<p>I like the "IMPOSSIBLE REACH", LOL, it's a nice way of saying "you have no chance in hell".</p>
<p>Because of my love for sports, and desire to major in Sport Management, it was unlikely that I would have gone after any of the "IMPOSSIBLE" or "HIGHLY UNLIKELY" schools anyways. </p>
<p>Of the list, here are the one's that offer my major:</p>
<p>HIGHLY UNLIKELY - Rice
MAJOR REACH - Northwestern
REACH - North Carolina
MID - Michigan, Illinois
SAFETY - Florida, Texas, Maryland, Miami (FL), Miami (OH), Minnesota</p>
<p>What about adding Clemson to the list, or is that school not too good?</p>
<p>Of the list above, I don't think I can afford Northwestern, Rice, Miami (FL) - even though they have been sending me letters saying I can afford it!</p>
<p>That takes my list down to 8 reachable schools - North Carolina (REACH), Michigan (MID), Illinois (MID), Florida (SAFETY), Texas (SAFETY), Maryland (SAFETY), Miami OH (SAFETY), Minnesota (SAFETY)</p>
<p>I like that list of schools. They all offer the major I want, are a place where I can enjoy myself, aren't too nerdy (LOL), great established athletics, high population. I'll probably apply to UNC (likely reject), Michigan (50/50), Illinois (50/50), and some safety schools.</p>
<p>Should I waste my time with Northwestern? I've always wanted to go there, but with a GPA of 3.63 weighted, and a ACT of 29, are my chances very poor? I already know Rice is a waste of time.</p>
<p>BTW - i'm whining about my major, but actually, I can essentially major in Business Administration/Management, and still get the same jobs and internships, or at least I think.</p>
<p>You have too many schools on that list. Listen you're going to get into all those safeties. I doubt you'd go to any of them, except... MSU. This is going to tick many of the veteran posters off on this website, but I think MSU as your only safety makes sense assuming you don't want scholarships at other places and like East Lansing. I mean look you'll apply soon and know before leaves start hitting the ground. If by random stroke of lightning you don't get into MSU, then apply to more. However I think some of your reaches and "super" reaches offer you no academic benefit over in state michigan and even if you were to get in, why go?</p>
<p>For Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Texas I'd say you have a great shot, but those are the 4 "mids" which are truly middle shots. You're in their medians. The other "mids" you list like Miami of OH and Pitt you're safely in. I don't understand what Pitt, Miami, UNC, EMU, etc all have in common so that you'd apply to them.</p>
<p>Consider applying ED or EA to one of those reaches.</p>
<p>Also if you want a business school, Wisconsin is superior to Illinois and be sure to add in Indiana. </p>
<p>Michigan, Wisconsin, Texas, Indiana, and MSU would be the most logical mid/safe schools for you.</p>
<p>my school is in MN</p>
<p>I would be careful categorizing Texas as a safety. Whith the top-ten-percent rule in TX still in effect for the class of 2006 most of their freshman spots are going to be filled by Texans, and oos is really tough</p>
<p>Whoa, be careful classifying Florida as a safety too. Not only are you (potentially) out of the top 10% of your class, your ACT isn't spectacular. Being out of state, unless you are a National Merit Finalist, I would not count on Florida as too strong of a match, much less a safety. Instate kids with your stats are rejected somewhat regularly.</p>
<p>Wow, thanks for the info Transfer!</p>
<p>That's what my parents have been saying. They are wondering why i'm even looking at schools harder to get into than Michigan. They say there aren't many schools better than them academically, that are cheaper, and offer the major I want. Of course, there is the intrigue of going somewhere else than my hometown. I'm definitely thinking of MSU and Indiana as safety schools.</p>
<p>I'm going to move Texas and Floirda as "MATCH" instead of safety... because i'm out of state.</p>
<p>REACH - UNC
MATCH - Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Florida
SAFETY - Maryland, Miami (OH), Minnesota, Michigan State, Indiana</p>
<p>This thread has been a BIG help</p>
<p>thats unfortunate that they change B+s to Bs. At my school a 88.5-91.5 is a B+. And most of the time I had a 90. oh well, hopefully for all of our sakes they will not look too much into it. Good Luck with Michigan.</p>
<p>I understand that Indiana has rolling admissions, and that they'll tell you whether you're in or not about a month after you submit a complete application. If you find out early on, you could eliminate having to apply to a bunch of other safeties.</p>
<p>Can anybody confirm this?</p>
<p>Illinois has rolling admissions</p>
<p>UNC by state charter and law cannot accept many OOS students. Chapel Hill is hard enough for NC kids to get into and they resent the OOS students taking their spots. Between 15-18% max. UVA takes almost a third of students from OOS applicant pools. This makes getting into UVA very very hard for students from the densely populated DC burbs. Both schools standards for OOS students is close to what you find at Ivies, but the OOS tuitioin will be considerably cheaper than an equivalent private school for people who must pay full freight. OOS admission is very competitive. Be glad you are from Michigan, an excellent large university. Guess you aren't interested in LAC's?</p>
<p>Okay, i'm not the brightest person when it comes to this.</p>
<p>Someone said Illinois has "rolling admissions". What exactly is that?</p>
<p>Faline - Thank you very much for your comments. I figured that UNC was very hard to get into when I saw people get into ivy schools, an rejected there. I don't think i'll waste my time. It's too bad, I really thought their Sport Management program would be good for me.</p>
<p>Also, what is LAC's? LA- Los Angeles C - Colleges? I'm interested, i'd love to go to USC, UCLA, Berkeley, San Diego, but I don't think I have the money or the grades. I'd also love to go to BC.</p>
<p>Liberal Arts Colleges. I know Virginians looking the Unversity of South Carolina's Sports Med program.<br>
U Michigan is a degree with a lot of cache. You would meet so many great teachers and students there that enough of an adventure would ensue despite it being a home state university for you. Michigan provides an outstanding college town and experience, although I tend to be prejudiced towards favoring the strengths of full access to profs and smaller classrooms offered by the smaller LACS of 4000 or less students.</p>
<p>Rolling admissions: the colleges process the applications when they receive them. If you submit an application in early September, you may know before the end of the month whether or not you have been accepted. Beware, popular majors may be full by late November.</p>
<p>Thanks Ellen. I'm pretty aware that I have to apply early to any school to get a chance, as I don't have high marks in GPA.</p>
<p>Sorry to bump this thread, but I have a couple more schools to ask about.</p>
<p>What about Georgia Tech? They have an acceptance rate of 70%, and their ACT 25-75% is 27-30, which my 29 would fit in.</p>
<p>University of Chicago? I know it is likely out of my league, but they also have a decent acceptance rate. 46%. Could I get lucky there? I heard it's a nerdy school, which I don't really want.</p>
<p>Boston U. seems to have about the same academics as Michigan
Wake Forest, NYU, Tulane, Johns Hopkins, would also be on the list.</p>
<p>Could anyone tell me if Ga. Tech, Chicago, Boston U., Wake Forest, NYU, Tulane, and Johns Hopkins are "high reaches, reaches, or matches"</p>
<p>Have you mentioned your extracurricular activities anywhere? For 38 posts people have been judging you based on your numbers, which are:</p>
<p>3.63 Weighted, ___ UW?, 29 ACT, 10-15% Class Rank</p>
<p>You keep on coming back to public schools; especially concerning is your affinity for out-of-state public schools. These schools will receive and accept a bulk of their applicants from in-state, making it more difficult for you to get in from out-of-state. You keep looking at all these statistics and saying that you are "in-range" as if that really helps anything, but the admissions officials will consider your application for what it is. We don't get a sense of how you'll be represented on the app, but your grades are only moderate and so is your class rank. Looking at numbers- and numbers alone- can be awfully misleading. You mentioned in another thread that you felt that your chances is supposed to be better because your ACT score is in the 50-75% of some UC schools, but you have to consider the easiest UC school to get into (Riverside), their incoming freshmen GPA is at 3.6. Berkeley, for example, admitted students' GPA is at 4.25. For a time in this thread you even mentioned UT-Austin as a safety! I will not go into details, but I nearly broke down laughing. I'm sure your ACT score is "in-range" with the data from TOTAL APPLICANTS, but your out-of-state competition is significantly stiffer; also, as some have mentioned, the ACT data may be skewed because of the "10% rule" instituted by Texas, meaning students with solid GPA will get into the school despite lower ACT/SAT scores (bringing down the numbers).</p>
<p>In your latest thread, you mentioned more of the same- OOS (Georgia Tech) and some more popular private colleges that receive a lot of applications. All of these schools are reaches, with Georgia Tech to a lesser degree, and University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins a distant, distant reach for you. You must also remember that none of the schools that you have listed are on a similar application, meaning you'll have to contact each school and request and application as well as work with f different applications that ask for different things~ you are setting yourself up for doing a really poor job on a number of these applications. You may be all juiced up and enthused now, but when it comes time to complete that eighth application and you have homework for English, you'll be worn out and just happy to turn anything in by the deadline.</p>
<p>So how can you make the most with what you got? I'd look to the Common Application first- if you want to apply to a lot of schools and like having options, it is almost necessary to use the Common App. Check out some of the LAC's (liberal arts colleges) that some have mentioned (~ haven't you been paying attention!?). They receive less amount of applicants, and they'll approach your app with a more holistic approach as opposed to numbers-based, like most of the major, public universities. Perhaps a better approach to this is detailing your outside activities, detailing the specifics of what you want in a college, and having the posters on these boards help you out. Right now you're just spitting out a lot of random schools- there is nothing that Tulane has in common with NYU, or in NYU with Wake Forest, or Wake Forest with Chicago! Best of luck,</p>
<p>TTG</p>
<p>Hey TTG,</p>
<p>Sorry, I really didn't mention my extracurriculars, I haven't even made a list of them yet. I've been involved with Ice Hockey all 4 years (as well as being a captain), been in orchestra for 4 years (as well as being president), done volunteer work at numerous events (about 10 events, 50+ hours), been both Key Club (1 year) and Frisbee Club (2 years), which we built a disc golf course for the community, Made an NFL club which I was the founder and president, write for NFL sites that are accredited nationally, finished 2nd in a competition amongst draft experts. I have a lot of stuff, i'm just going to need to sort it all out for my app. I'm not worried there, i'm involved with my school and have done many events.</p>
<p>My desire to go to public schools has to do with 1) the price of the public schools, and 2) my desire for a big school with strong athletics that I can brag about. My life is all about sports. I am majoring in Sports Administration/Management. I don't want to go to a private university that will cost a ton (which the 5 I just mentioned do... LOL) that doesn't have strong sports, which won't give me the same experience a college like Michigan, Texas, UNC, Florida, or Georgia will.</p>
<p>I didn't realize how little of a chance I had out-of-state until I went to the library to look at one of those big college books, and realized the amount of in-state applicants they admit. UT-Austin had 91% of the applicants admitted in-state, I have a 1 in 20 shot there. UNC-Chapel Hill admits 83% in-state, so I have a very low chance there. Didn't get to looking at many schools, but i'm not very happy about my chances right now. It's looking like Michigan or bust, and i'm really worrying about busting, especially with my "Michigan GPA" being a 3.3, when 3.6-3.8 is the mean.</p>
<p>I thank you for your comments about the schools with the out-of-state acceptance rate. I'm really not informed with this college process, and haven't really thought of other options besides UM-Ann Arbor. I don't really know what schools besides UM-Ann Arbor fit me well, which is why i'm spitting names out. A few posters have made lists for me, of reaches, matches, and safeties, which has really helped, with the schools i've given. I've eliminated about 1/2 the schools I had listed already. </p>
<p>Does anyone know of a source where I can find OOS percentages? Collegeboard.com only gives overall percentages. There are big books at the library I can look at, I believe, but they didn't give info i'm looking for. I want like the # of OOS applicants vs. the # admitted. If you can find that, it'd help me eliminate more schools including UNC-Chapel Hill and UT-Austin.</p>