<p>I agree with Susan....</p>
<p>I think this wait is getting to our heads...so we are coming up with random historic topics to kill time. It would have been awesome if we had all found out the decisions last week but oh well...it did not happen and will not happen until the date...</p>
<p><em>hops back into the depressed-waiting-mode</em></p>
<p>"many black people are held back by their own mentalities. " </p>
<p>um. what?</p>
<p>^ Who said that?!? I sure didn't. You should probably refer to the original poster</p>
<p>that was me.</p>
<p>iunno it's a sentiment i've noticed from the anecdotal evidence i've seen over the years.</p>
<p>I think that statement is true about humans in general, not necessarily just black people or any people of color. </p>
<p>I think, next time, that statement should probably be dictated less crudely..</p>
<p>whatever. i couldn't care less if i'm crude on an online forum.</p>
<p>JumpJump,</p>
<p>I didn't miss the point... This, coming from an African American, is a very sensitive subject. I would just rather end this discussion with my previous comment since all of this is really off-topic...</p>
<p>So who else got their decision?</p>
<p>Not me. :(</p>
<p>But I'm white.</p>
<p>Me neither. </p>
<p>I'm also an over-represented Caucasian majority.</p>
<p>I'm still waiting too...Emory should stop being dumb and give us a confirmed release date!</p>
<p>not me</p>
<p>didn't include race in my applications. didn't care to leave the possibility that it might influence their decision about me one way or the other. i'm alright with waiting just a little longer because of my decision</p>
<p>gapin'it, I really applaud you for making that decision. I think it is INCREDIBLY cool that you refuse to let your ethnicity factor into your acceptance:] </p>
<p>I wish I was that brave!</p>
<p>I spoke with the senior associate dean, Ronnie McKnight, and he said to expect decisions on Saturday, March 28th at 8 AM eastern time.</p>
<p>i REALLY hope that date is correct b/c im so tired of waiting!</p>
<p>wow, you people are lame. No offense. Not all of you but some.
I always enjoy how we don't have tintilating legacy discussions.</p>
<p>Anyway, there are plenty of other theards to debate AA in general. I'd ask kindly to take it to there.</p>
<p>In the context of Emory the reason they are releasing earlier to at least some URM, <em>'cause I've yet to hear from a rejected one</em> is for the weekend program. Instead of doing a likely letter like other schools they are just cutting through the b.s. and releasing the decision, so they can arrange the weekend.</p>
<p>And why are they having the weekend, to spite bitter Caucasions of course!
No, because as you may have or may have not noticed it can suck to be in the minority. Even, or especially, if you are used to it. If you looked at my earlier posts with the stats, my concerns are for the diversity of emory. While this may play less into the mind of an ORM or Caucasion, it can be of keen interest to an URM, like me.</p>
<p>It's already turning me off. So, in Emory's effort to actually get these qualified URM to actually matriculate they have these diversity weekends to attempt to convince us we have a place at the campus and we'll be comfortable there. It's not to segregate, <em>though earlier be-friending I guess could have a minor effect on self-segregation</em> it's not an attempt at affirmative action, it's not even truly favoring the minority.</p>
<p>It's to create a more diverse campus, because underrepresented are underrepresented for a reason. </p>
<p>Though sometimes I feel guilty for not considering a school with less than 5% african americans, I'm not going to sacrifice my basic, minimum level of comfort for a schools stats.</p>
<p>Honestly, I know it's not of grave importance to a Caucasion, but can you really feel comfortable at the idea of going to an essentially mono-ethnic or bi-ethnic society. In the same way mono-social/economic university. <em>cough</em> Harvard. <em>cough</em></p>
<p>This is why Emory <em>& likemind conscious schools</em> not only have diversity initiatives but economic ones too.</p>
<p>White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack
Peggy McIntosh</p>
<p><a href="http://www.case.edu/president/aaction/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf%5B/url%5D%5B/I%5D%5B/U%5D">http://www.case.edu/president/aaction/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf</a>
I always recommend this for a little social conciousness.</p>
<p>has anyone found out from emory yet?</p>
<p>I support AA to some degree but this is complete *****<strong><em>. It is just ridiculous that a school would release decisions to URMs before all the other applicants. I dont give a *</em></strong> what anyone says, that is promoting differences amongst races once again. Why didnt they just release decisions for everyone? When will people realize that humans are humans and are not defined by their race.</p>
<p>I am half white and half arab living in a Mexican community. I knew Spanish before I knew Arabic. But Emory decided that because some people have a trace of black/latino/native american in them, that they will receive their admission decision a week before everyone else. </p>
<p>Final verdict: **** Emory.</p>
<p>pgtori,</p>
<p>For what it's worth, I commend you -- highly -- for your response. </p>
<p>As a personage of non-URM stature, I have only to look back on my own lifetime of having observed blatant racism and social practices that have made this country less than what it could be. Unfortunately the term "affirmative action" has a problem in both usage and current definition. The context of the term in usage a few decades ago is seemingly much different from what the term connotates today. (Language is that way, and that's why we have an entire field of studies to explain things such as linguistic etiological patterns and development.) Still... the efforts to balance playing fields must continue.</p>
<p>I happened to be in Atlanta in August 2005, during the 40th anniversary of the Voting Rights Act, and was visiting the Martin Luther King Center. Even as someone who prides himself on studying history and understanding the meaning of historical contexts, I was still surprised to be reminded of just how slowly change happens. Even after the laws are enacted, the practical implementation can take many years more. I was also reminded of my own college years, when over 35 years ago, I spent several months on a remote island of the Georgia Sea Islands living and working within a small community of African-Americans whose lives were essentially at a sustenance level. Every day, I can see the struggles continuing, sometimes not much different from 35 years ago.</p>
<p>The matter of creating intelligent discourse on race is likely not this forum, although there can be no debate that discourse must occur and continue. The discussion on whether or not terrible and even violent discrimination against gender/race has been adequately redressed through "affirmative action" programs probably needs renewed attention and dialogue. Again, this is probably not the best forum. </p>
<p>The matter of Emory's releasing decisions for URM applicants is obviously poorly understood, and the response here by some is surprising. The practices of Emory to celebrate the values of diversity are entirely consistent with every major university in this country, and certainly Emory is not alone in wanting to create opportunities for disadvantaged students (whatever the root of the disadvantage). The Office of Admission had clear intent to notify selected students, based on their applications, to encourage those students' consideration. Emory (like most all elite universities) is to be commended for their efforts to open doors and be inclusive to those who demonstrate academic promise despite having to surmount daily struggles. Whereas many here on CC have the time and wherewithal to access the Internet, there are many on the other side of the "divide" who have never even heard of CC, nor had any reason to since college was never even an option. These are the ones that Emory is reaching out to.</p>
<p>Finally, despite whatever uninformed guesses or rumors to the contrary, the Office of Admission has consistently given a date of April 1 as their notification date, give or take a few days. It's no different this year than it has been the past 4 years.</p>
<p>To those who are admitted, congratulations. To those who then choose to attend Emory, I hope you will find it to offer you the opportunities to learn, share in dialogue, and to apply critical thinking based on acquired knowledge.</p>
<p>In the case of looking at struggles and the disadvantaged student, blacks and hispanics struggle as does EVERYONE ELSE... Every color and race can be poor. Someones religion, culture and diverse background does not designate that person's "struggles". Emory is promoting rascism wether you want to believe it or not. Good for the people who got accepted but what would have been the harm in simply sending an email to every applicant letting them know their decision... a weekend is one thing, but a difference in decision release is a completely other story. Here we see it... racisim at it's worst. Have we not tried to conquer this demon? Why do we have to see it emerge at full throttle again? Maybe we can all one day understand that people are people no matter what color.</p>