<p>My GPA is not that high(88) but I have excellent ECs, recs and sats. More importantly I believe that my essay will truly stand out. </p>
<p>If Princeton has 2 rounds of reading I would probably be out automatically in the first round, however if there is one round then I would stand a small chance.</p>
<p>honestly, everyone thinks their essays will stand out, i hate to break it to you...but i doubt there's much anyone can do to show them something they havent seen already</p>
<p>What is your class rank? If it is high, that will increase your chances of making it to another round. If you are at a really competitive school a low rank could be accounted for. Also, your SAT scores could make or break your chances of making it to the next round (I hesitate to say "second" because I doubt there are only 2, yet I have no factual basis for thinking this, only inference)</p>
<p>To sum it up: if your quanitative stats are good (other than your GPA), you will have a much better chance of making it to Round 2 than if your essay was pretty much all you had going for you.</p>
<p>I disagree. While a 1450 stands below most Princeton students you'll be competing against, such factors are only for you to put your feet through the door, which I think you can do. Once that's done, all your ECs, recs, and essays will play in, so I'd say your chances aren't <em>that</em> much lower than the average applicant.</p>
<p>Although I've applied ED too and although they'll be reading my application along with yours, I wish you the best of luck.</p>
<p>Kath- if SAT scores are everything why doesn't every single person who has a 1580+ get in? Its all part of some great big mumble jumble of factors put together that gets you in or not.</p>
<p>Take a look at last years thread- several of those who got in were had less than 1450 in SAT. Many of those rejected had SAT's of over 1500 ... doesn't that tell you somethin?</p>
<p>correction if you play sports 1450 is incredible. otherwise its not significant. why lead the guy on? biatch dieselBoy see you in the board room im sure you will say that again one day when faced with logic.</p>
<p>A lot of schools have two readers (sometimes 3) read each app and give on the stop yes-no-maybe decisions. The maybes or split decisions, probably around 30-40% of the total, go to a full committee. I don't know if Pton uses this system but I wouldn't be surprised.</p>
<p>I would like to believe that the ED applications are given more consideration due to the few they receive compared to ED (although they have a lot less time to read them).</p>
<p>Pyroclastic: Do you believe an application receives an automatic "no" if the SAT scores are not at a certain level (within reason) without giving any consideration to the rest of the application? Do you think essays are the last criteria they consider and use them as a tie breaker due to the amount of time it takes to read them?</p>
<p>i really hope that they won't kick out an applicant simply because his sat score fails to reach a threshhold level, other wise I am screwed. They look at highest composite scores, right? So if i got 0v, 0w, 800m in my first taking, 0v, 800w, 0m,on my second try and 800v, 0w, 0m on my third try, they still count it as 2400, am I correct?(a little exaggeration).</p>
<p>And do good, high sat II scores compensate for median sat scores?</p>
<p>Lets not forget that althought they recieve lesser applicants,they some 2-3 weeks to make all the decisions ... compared the the several months of RD!</p>
<p>I'm so tired of people like Kathy telling people they have no chance. Why would you ruin someone's day like that? Oh, your being "nice" and saving them a bunch of delusion, well what if delusion is what gets us through life. If we doubted our every move, we wouldnt go anywhere.</p>
<p>Gregster, I think focusing on an Ivy when the scores and stats arent there is a waste of time. Why not find your niche and focus on that and ENJOY the experience then sweating out a delusion then have nothing. Im tired of NICE people feeding those left behind... I would rather focus on where I have a great chance enjoy the school and the experience. Getting into HYP is not the end all. And in the end logic will prevail like it or not. Should he apply sure if he has the money why not pick 50 dream schools, I dont care. But at a time of record apps, adcoms saying perfect 8's, great ecs and great essays and all of this no guarantee.. hey you figure it out. its about numbers kiddies. like it or not.</p>