<p>^So don’t have a car.</p>
<p>And yes, millions of people around the world walk several blocks or more in the snowy, dark, windy morning/noon/night. This may come as a surprise, but many of those people actually LIKE winter weather.</p>
<p>What an enlightening talk at the link, I had not seen it before. I think this is also why institutions are using EQ as a hiring quotient. In my mind it bodes well for our futures.</p>
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<p>Heh. While visiting my HS friend attending school in the Boston area during our freshman year, we ended up losing track of time and finding ourselves six miles away from his campus at 1:30 am in the morning on a cold snowy late October night. </p>
<p>Since the T(Buses as well) were shut down by then and we didn’t feel like spending the cash for a cab, we walked the entire six miles back to his campus. While some may have felt it was something worth panicking over, we actually enjoyed the entire walk and viewed it as an adventure of sorts. It also helped that I enjoy navigating unfamiliar terrain. :)</p>
<p>Then again, I am the type of person to enjoy long walks in the evening…including the 5 mile walk I just did earlier this evening. :)</p>
<p>Thanks for that Gladwell link.</p>
<p>Although he describes the correlation, I don’t see the actual causation.</p>
<p>He seems to conclude that every student knows where they actually stand in the hierarchy and he also implies that SAT scores are the right way to determine intellect, interest and motivation.</p>
<p>The other day my four children were simply spellbound as a Ferrari whisked by…I told them that we could have four of them if we didn’t have to pay for college ;)</p>
<p>Thank you, bookmouse. That was a wonderful talk.</p>
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<p>Oh, GMAFB. Ann Arbor and the upper midwest isn’t appreciably different weather-wise from most of the northeast, but no one “can’t imagine” going to Harvard because Boston is so awful in the winter. Spare me the drama of walking several blocks in the snowy, dark, windy morning. It’ll kill me to agree with cobrat here, but the six-mile walk in the falling snow could actually be quite lovely.</p>
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<p>Heck, when I was a kid I used to trudge to school in the deep snow uphill both ways every day, even in the summertime. But did I complain? No!</p>
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<p>Lorem, that was back in the olden days…Is it safe for a young lady to walk several blocks in the dark alone?</p>
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<p>Unless the olden days were before the 1970s, crime rates in the US have recently been lower than in the past few decades.</p>
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<p>Yes, indeed, it was an interesting talk.
However, I really have a hard time understanding the study on the academic economists. The idea of relative deprivation does not seem to explain the situation. I assume the 85-percentile Harvard Ph. D student probably ended up with a faculty position at a somewhat less prestigious U. He/she will most likely be the top faculty there - so relative deprivation doe not explain this at all- unless they are saying that the prior relative deprivation at Harvard somehow damage him/her irreparably. If this is the case, the ramification is frightening - perhaps your snowflakes should not be taking all those AP courses - they will be permanently damaged (unless they happen to be the 99%). They will be a loser in college and then in real life.</p>
<p>Lastly, how did one manage to publish less than one paper in six years (in academic setting) and not being shown the door.</p>
<p>UCB, my first statement has nothing to do with crime. It was more of a rib to Lorems post, a continuation to his humor. I was responding in a way a kid would most likely respond to a parent once we start saying, When I was a kid </p>
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<p>Hmmm . . .</p>
<p>If cold, snowy, and dark in winter are your criteria, you’d also need to rule out Harvard, MIT, Cornell, Dartmouth, Chicago, Northwestern, Tufts, Boston College, Boston University, Brandeis, Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Bowdoin, Wellesley, Smith, Mount Holyoke, U Rochester, RPI, Colgate, Hamilton, and on and on, all of which have similar winter weather and similar daylight to Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>As for parking: what kind of fool would bring a car to Ann Arbor, unless they were commuting from the immediate vicinity? Probably the same kind of fool who would bring a car to Manhattan or Cambridge. And for shops and restaurants, I’d put Ann Arbor up against any of the above-named places. Seriously, every last one of them.</p>
<p>We have friends who were profs at Ann Arbor for years & they loved it.
( a few years ago they did both transfer to NYU, but they are getting older & wanted to be closer to friends & family- its not like the weather was going to be a huge improvement ;)) </p>
<p>I would agree that not all public universities have a similar reputation, but the fact that the students in question * can’t tell the difference* says quite a lot about their sources</p>
<p>collweather,
“It seems you prefer to use your daughter as showcase for evey CC thread instead of listening to what other people know and say”
-I will shut up to please you.</p>
<p>Our son attends Choate, a New England prep where many students have Ivy lust and where many parents somehow expect the school to get them there. Certainly many of these parents would tell you that they are not paying private-school dollars for their kid to attend State U. So, I had to chuckle at the not-so-subliminal message sent before the opening session to College Info weekend last year where, as people were finding seats before the program started, a Where did they go to College? trivia game was silently looping on the huge auditorium screen much like they do before the start of movies these days all famous names/faces, not one well-known or highly-sought-after college. The message that day from the college counseling office was that there are MANY wonderful schools that will prepare a student well for life beyond academia, and they had invited speakers from several of those lesser-known schools to explain how and why. As a policy, Choate requires each student to apply to their state U, not just to ensure matriculation choices but because they know that state universities can often provide a great education at a great value and should not be overlooked or disregarded by students or parents just because they may not be seen as elite.</p>
<p>OP: ChoatieKid called last night after he attended the fall college fair and reported that he had to stand in line to talk to the Michigan rep. He said the Michigan table was one of the most consistently crowded all night, even among the tables represented by your uninformed classmates choices. I hope by now, even though the conversation has gone all over the place, you realize that there is nothing gross about public universities and certainly no stigma to attending one as fine as the University of Michigan.</p>
<p>bookmouse, the Malcolm Gladwell clip is very relevant.</p>
<p>yeah. Pity the poor schlubs who actually have to go to school in Ann Arbor. Who would want to live there? Why, it’s only:</p>
<p>…the second-most educated city in the country (2011 data) [The</a> 10 Most Educated U.S. Cities - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/08/30/the-10-most-educated-us-cities-boulder-ann-arbor-and-washington-dc-top-the-list]The”>http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/08/30/the-10-most-educated-us-cities-boulder-ann-arbor-and-washington-dc-top-the-list)</p>
<p>…the fourth most well-read city (according to Amazon) [Ann</a> Arbor the fourth ‘Most Well-Read’ city in America, according to Amazon.com](<a href=“Ann Arbor the fourth 'Most Well-Read' city in America, according to Amazon.com”>Ann Arbor the fourth 'Most Well-Read' city in America, according to Amazon.com)</p>
<p>…the fifth-happiest city in America [Happiest</a> Cities in America, From Boulder to Bridgeport (Photos) - The Daily Beast](<a href=“Happiest Cities in America, From Boulder to Bridgeport (Photos)”>Happiest Cities in America, From Boulder to Bridgeport (Photos))</p>
<p>…a great place for singles [Ann</a> Arbor tops Kiplinger’s list of 10 best cities for singles](<a href=“http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-arbor-tops-kiplingers-list-of-best-cities-for-singles/]Ann”>Ann Arbor tops Kiplinger's list of 10 best cities for singles)</p>
<p>But yes, they do have winter in Michigan. On the positive side, though, Ann Arbor has Zingerman’s!</p>
<p>“Heck, when I was a kid I used to trudge to school in the deep snow uphill both ways every day, even in the summertime. But did I complain? No”</p>
<p>I think you missed the 15 miles part. :p</p>
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<p>" “I had to walk fifteen miles (because it’s always fifteen miles, don’t question it) to school barefoot in the snow! Uphill both ways!”"</p>
<p>Having a senior at UNC-CH, I found this thread interesting and read through some but not all postings . . . so forgive me if this comment is redundant or if it comes from left field. I couldn’t be happier about the education my son has received. He had the incredible good fortune of attending a great independent day school on the west coast, which in my mind and his, was a version of a small LAC . . . small discussion-based classes around tables led by really engaged teachers. Many of his classmates so loved this experience that they sought to repeat it in college and chose LACs that were in so many ways fantastic extensions of what they had already experienced. My son sought something very different and chose Carolina. There was a brief adjustment period that he worked through but now as a senior he couldn’t be happier and can’t imagine himself at any of the other colleges he considered. He’s been in big classes but also many small ones, even a “Maymester” course on Moby Dick with just seven other students. On the first day of that class, his professor slammed his hand on the small table before them christening it as their whaling boat for the next three weeks! The LAC side of me loved that story. But as a parent in this day and age, I also love the toughness and resilience that my son has developed at a larger state school, where he has had to learn through trial and error how to get the classes he needs and wants, how to approach a professor to get a seat in a full class, and how to navigate a a physically large and bureaucratically complex university. There hasn’t been much hand holding and as a result I think he’s going to be more ready to handle an unforgiving working world. I’m a supporter of state flagships for everyone but I guess my point here is that they can be especially great options for those lucky kids who have had a rich and engaging high school experience (i.e. prep school and strong publics). I venture that the most growth for them as human beings MIGHT be found in university settings that push them out of their comfort zone a bit while still providing great academics.</p>