<p>Does anyone know how greatly will not having an ELC number, though qualifying for it, affect my chances at UCB? I'm really annoyed with myself for forgetting, so if anyone could tell me I'd be really grateful. Thanks!</p>
<p>-Christina</p>
<p>I'm sorry to hear that. It definitely plays some role in the decision, but the amount? No one knows for sure.</p>
<p>you can call up the UC ppl or shoot them an e-mail if you lose your elc id. you'd better do that if you received one.</p>
<p>i don't think it matters that much for berkeley. berkeley doesn't guarantee admission for ELC whereas some other UC's like SD and irvine do ( i think) so no big deal</p>
<p>to poster above: ELC makes sure you get into the University of California System to at least one school. You are not automatically admitted to sd or irvine if you're ELC. elc just helps because it means you're top 4% at your high school. and you get an app that's a little bit filled out for you already. so i hope you've already called and retrieved your elc stuff.</p>
<p>Don't forget Merced.</p>
<p>correct me if i m wrong</p>
<p>berkeley is not on the "make sure" lis, so ELC doesn't really matter for berkeley. The person who posted the question wanted to know if the chance of admission to berkeley would be affected</p>
<p>"The admission review reflects the readers thoughtful consideration of the full spectrum of the applicants qualifications, based on all evidence provided in the application, and viewed in the context of the applicants academic and personal circumstances and the overall strength of the Berkeley applicant pool. Using a broad concept of merit, readers employ the following criteria which carry no pre-assigned weights.</p>
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<li> The applicants full record of achievement in college preparatory work in high school, including the number and rigor of courses taken and grades earned in those courses. Consideration will be given to completion of courses beyond the Universitys A-G minimums; strength of the senior year course load; and performance in honors, college-level, Advanced Placement, and International Baccalaureate Higher Level (IBHL) courses, to the extent that such courses are available to the applicant. In assessing achievement levels, consideration is given to individual grades earned, to the pattern of achievement over time, and to an applicants achievement relative to that of others in his or her high school, including whether he or she is among those identified as Eligible in the Local Context. "</li>
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<p>well i think your gpa alone will be enough to determine how well you have done.</p>
<p>I know ELC's who get rejected by Berkeley, so i don't think it's really that big of a deal</p>
<p>Being the kind of person who would get ELC is what helps. Actually getting it . . . not such a big deal, really. It mainly helps the top students at weak high schools. It guarentees the top 4% get into one UC school. They get the advantages from the program.</p>
<p>DRab, what's your major</p>
<p>Your chances would be affected because ELC means your top 4 percent. That just doesn't mean you get guaranteed admission into a UC. It also means that you performed very well relative to your HS. This is a major boost for any college you apply to. Email the UC or call them and ask them for your ELC ID. It's crucial.</p>
<p>Intended philosophy and rhetoric double major. When I say rhetoric, I don't mean what you think- check out the Berkeley website for more infor about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://rhetoric.berkeley.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://rhetoric.berkeley.edu/</a></p>
<p>wow double major, pretty cool. maybe you can help me out when i take humanities</p>
<p>Hehe yeah, I intend to double, but who knows what will happen? It might end up as a major/minor . . . I'll do what I can, though. For many people it's best or better to explore one topic in depth, but I feel that these overlap in such a manner as to be very similar to that.</p>
<p>which R & C is easier, english r1a/r1b or rhetoric r1a/r1b</p>
<p>Although you're kind high jacking, I will comply. They are both tough because the difficulty of the class depends on the GSIs teaching, and both English and Rhetoric get intense graduate students. English probably more so, but Rhetoric operates differently than English, although in similar ways . . . take the class that has the more interesting reading list. I recommend taking some Rhetoric class, and if the R and C is the only way that's going to happen, do it- it will open you up to some very interesting and most likely new concepts.</p>
<p>Are the English and Rhetoric R&C courses all taught by GSIs, while the other R&C courses such as AA studies, EA studies are taught by professors?</p>
<p>Depends, but most are taught by GSIs, which is the case of most R and C courses.</p>
<p>i just don't want to screw over my gpa, which i think will get screwed over pretty badly</p>