<p>This came as quite a surprise. See below:</p>
<p>The personal experience of one freshman who pledged -<a href="http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/smithers/docs/hazed_and_confused.pdf">http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/smithers/docs/hazed_and_confused.pdf</a></p>
<p>and more.. <a href="http://hazing.cornell.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://hazing.cornell.edu/</a>.</p>
<p>but isn't alpha gamma phi a sorority?? so it's a pseudonym for what frat at cornell then??</p>
<p>glad someone besides me thinks these things is crazy....</p>
<p>The names in the paper are pseudonyms. Also, I'll bet that dude was probably pledging DU back then, which incidentily got its charter revoked in 2002 for hazing/excessive pledge abuse/etc.</p>
<p>"Members required new members to live with members for a week during which they were not allowed to communicate with anyone else and were required to wear multiple layers of clothing to class."</p>
<p>I feel like I remember sum1 saying that 1st part on CC b4</p>
<p>One of the asian fraternities makes their pledges wear the same uniform for their hell week, are not allowed to change, and are not allowed to talk to non-asian people (unless its during class)</p>
<p>this might be a REALLY stupid question so im sorry in advance bc i dont know that much about greek life besides seeing animal house...
but are sororities like this? like, do they do this stuff...bc it sounds crappy.</p>
<p>but ive always though i would try to be in one you know?</p>
<p>hm...</p>
<p>the pdf is an excellent article -- everyone should read the first 30 pages.</p>
<p>Timduncanbball</p>
<p>I don't think it was DU because in the paper he talks about the frat being right on the other side of the bridge on North.</p>
<p>missed that part.</p>
<p>might be Pi Kappa Phi, which is on North and also got its charter revoked alongside DU for repeated violations of risk-management policies. LOL</p>
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<p>No, not really. I've heard a few things about a couple of houses but I'm pretty sure most of it isn't true. Some things could be considered "hazing" I guess, if you go by a strict definition.</p>
<p>cornell has cracked down on hazing quite a bit.. the testimonials are pretty old. some houses will try to tell you that competing houses have bad hazing, but most are about the same, with a few bad ones. join a house based on the people in it, dont get too scared about hazing, from talking to people, no one has had to do anything crazy. as weird as it sounds, i personally enjoyed pledging, it took time management, but you genuinely get close to your pledge class members, and have a lot of great memerable experiences. it was not bad for me.</p>
<p>also remember, these people are your friends and brothers, if they ever did try to make you do something that you didnt want to, refuse. they may say something stupid like "you wont get into this house if you dont do this" but its not true from what ive heard. they are your friends and if they dont want to be respectful of you, then you shouldnt want to be friends with them. </p>
<p>and no, sororities at cornell do not really have a pledging process.</p>
<p>JCAS323, I tried to message you with some questions about frats but it said that you don't accept private messages. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to rush week and I wanted to know if you could tell me your opinion and the reputation of some of these houses. Thanks.
DU:
Fiji:
Chi Phi:
Llenroc:
Phi Sig:
Sigma Phi:</p>
<p>Btw, which frat are you in (if you're in one that is)? Thanks.</p>
<p>That hazed and confused thing is one clearly bias person's view on the Greek system at Cornell. </p>
<p>Honestly, from friends that I made within frats over last semester, there really isn't anything they force you to do. They want members, and they don't want members dropping out during the pledge process. If you don't want to do something (say a brother is standing there pressuring you to funnel or something when you've had enough), just tell them no. They'll get tired of it and move on. Sure, pledging will probably be a *<strong><em>, but just stick up for yourself and don't do something if you don't feel comfortable with it. You have to be extremely desperate for social acceptance or something in order to go through some of the stuff described in that paper - and most people that will end up joining and pledging aren't that desperate. In other words, unless you are a total little *</em></strong> and are scared to say no whenever someone older than you tells you to do something, you'll be fine.</p>
<p>well, I don't know too much about IFC and pan-hell, but I'm part of an MGLC org and there are a lot of rumors about hazing and whatnot in MGLC (which may or may not be true, I cannot speak for them). I know if you do plan on pledging an MGLC, you should be very careful. There are several orgs who are suspended or just recently came back from being suspended for hazing, and I know of at least one other org who's membership died out because the last person in the org refused to pledge another person because this member was hazed during his/her process.</p>
<p>I am very against hazing, and it really pains me that people are willing to be hazed just to not be considered weak or to be a part of an org. In my opinion, why should I call someone my sister/brother if they want to hurt me (but in their mind, "test" me). It is not worth it, and if you ever find yourself in this situation, you should question your motivation to endure it. Obviously, hazing definitions may be different from people to people, and the lines may be different. Asking someone to shave their heads may be acceptable to some, and considered hazing to others. But they cross the line when they ask you to do something you are uncomfortable with or feel pressured to do.</p>
<p>Lastly, I know hazing started to get looked at in the 1970's because it was a sister of an organization that was hazed by their pledges. The sisters of this org put their pledges in the woods, and these pledges got scared, hijacked the car, and when the sisters were running after them, one got run over. Rather ironic really.</p>
<p>Newnameforme, it's probably not a good idea to discuss reputations and such for fraternities publicly. Much of what you hear may not be true anyway, and are often nothing more than opinions. Additionally, certain houses don't wait untrue stereotypes perpetuated in public forums like this one.</p>
<p>By the way, I believe JCAS is in PsiU, but I may be mistaken.</p>
<p>I assume most frats have a single overriding characteristic, so whats the main frat for each of the following:</p>
<p>Athletics
Academics
Underprivelidged students
preppy/old money
Asians
Blacks
Gays</p>
<p>Athletics: Sig Nu (football), ATO (lacrosse), Chi Psi, Chi Phi (rugby)
Academics: if you mean nerdy then AEPi, Sammy, etc.
Underprivelidged students: ???
preppy/old money: some people in DKE
Asians: Lambdas
Blacks: don't know, there are only two black frats
Gays: no idea</p>
<p>preppy/old money would definitely be Psi U and SAE. the asian frat is PBPsi (I think)...there aren't any black frats with houses I don't think, but there's at least one that exists. I don't think there really are "underprivileged" or "gay" frats.</p>
<p>So unless ur an athlete who plays for Cornell, a nerd, really rich, or poor, then a white person can't find a frat...eh? lol lol ;)</p>