<p>tenniscraze, everyone tries to fit in a bit. why don't you eat with your hands if you are not trying to fit in?</p>
<p>hell, "fitting in" exists in UDem, QSU, everywhere.</p>
<p>I am curious as to how many Varsity athletes are in the Greek system. No one has really answered that question. Is there time for them to be a participant in all that Greek life has to offer? If they can not make meetings, are they fined or is it understood that athletics and practice comes first? That would be good to know.
What percentage of students at UVA are Greek and is it considered important? I guess what I am asking is if this is something that most students do or just one of the many opportunities available?</p>
<p>There are a few Varsity athlete in the Greek organizations, but most organizations fine brothers and sisters for not participating in events. This is a hamper on many athletes from rushing and pledging. I can't give an exact percent on Greek students, but the Greek life is an important facet of the social experience at UVA with 99% of parties being Greek. Rushing is a big part of the first few weeks of Spring Semester especially at Old Dorm where floors go together to visit the various houses. </p>
<p>The reason why I'm a Greek is because I like my would-be brothers and they like me. We clicked and bonded over a semester of pledging, and this January will mark my second year as a Theta Tau.</p>
<p>What a tool.... anyway, 99% of the parties aren't greek. obviously as a greek yourself, you wouldn't think that there are many parties outside frat ones... there are actually many house parties on JPA over the weekends so the frat scene isn't quite as dominating:)</p>
<p>My apologies, tenniscraze for my overestimation, but it's still a fact that most parties are Greek. Even you cannot deny that.</p>
<p>Indeed, tenniscraze completely took that quote out of context. I know the girl and know what she actually meant behind all that. I also happen to know how many of her blog entries you had to scroll through, not Facebook, but her blog. Getting desperate for ammo?</p>
<p>thehighway - you're partially going off tenniscraze's inaccurate yanking quote of context line, but truly, this isn't the case. Although many say sorority/frat people are shallow - they aren't so stupid as to not even have an inkling that someone's putting up a front to act like them. If they're genuinely like them, that's another story. But I'm sure Greeks would want to have someone who's acting true to their personality in their organization. Please refer to earlier posts on why there are less Asians in IFC/ISC organizations.</p>
<p>I actually like house parties better -- I can yank all my sisters AND my non Greek friends to have fun together. However, I have to say some of the funniest/craziest stuff happens at Greek parties, good stories. =P</p>
<p>Mmph, forgot to address this but can't seem to find an edit button. What did you mean by pointers tenniscraze?</p>
<p>I think he means insider facts about the sororities and "tricks" to get in them.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying that UVAMalex! </p>
<p>Wow, what a coincidence that you actually know that girl, melli... It really sounds like she was desperate for attention, and by taking pictures with white people she feels having already achieved this desire... I think that's rather funny! Well that's what I got from the quote at least. I am not quite sure what you meant by my taking the quote out of context... perhaps you could explain the quote better since you're her "friend" and that you 'actually knew what (she) meant behind all that'.</p>
<p>Oh. <em>rolls eyes</em> Thanks UVAMalex.</p>
<p>PM'ed you tenniscraze, since this has nothing to do with the thread and is a personal attack.</p>
<p>Thanks for answering my question UVAMaleex09! That is a shame that Sororities and Frats would fine athletes for not making functions when they are out there representing UVA in the best way possible. It would seem to me that they would want some of these girls and guys in their houses and could work around their sports schedules. Do you all find that the athletes' respective teammates become their "sorority or fraternity"?
I guess what I am still curious about is if anyone but tenniscraze would consider it a big loss socially or otherwise if they did not go "Greek"? It seems to me that there are a lot of options at UVA and is it really necessary to become Greek just to "belong" or be involved? I know it is fun because I went "greek" in the 70's and really enjoyed it but don't know if it is that important today for college students.</p>
<p>In a way, many athletes forge a fraternity or sorority. Being Greek is not for everyone. Many naysayers look at it as buying friends. It's bigger than being with your chapter. You have a bond with all of your brothers or sisters around the country or the world. Not everyone can be brothers for life with CEOs, celebrities, and politicians. I am happy to know that my Dean is also my brother even if he is at a position of power. Going to Richmond to celebrate a VCU brother's birthday is one of the things I love looking forward to this fall. Besides, people come in the droves to Rugby, Sakura, Preston, and beyond to the parties. They get all they need from the parties. Greeks get more like camaraderie, service, and development.</p>
<p>It depends on the type of person you are, but if you're the outgoing-have-no-problem-talking-to-others type, then it's definitely not a big loss. I was perfectly fine without a sorority, and joined because I felt it would enrich my life. =) </p>
<p>Hearing people say being Greek is all about buying friends actually irks me, because people who say that seem to conveniently forget that houses need money for cleaning/remodeling, retreats need fees to be paid for, rituals need various items, etc. Bleargh.</p>
<p>UVAMalex - Party at Sakura much? I kind of find all parties there, regardless of who's hosting, to be all the same after a while..</p>
<p>I limit my partygoing to Sakura and the like due to monetary issues.</p>
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I guess what I am still curious about is if anyone but tenniscraze would consider it a big loss socially or otherwise if they did not go "Greek"? It seems to me that there are a lot of options at UVA and is it really necessary to become Greek just to "belong" or be involved? I know it is fun because I went "greek" in the 70's and really enjoyed it but don't know if it is that important today for college students.
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<p>There are plenty of fine social outlets both inside and outside of the Greek system. Remember that tenniscraze is finely crafted schtick and for some reason people continually take his flamebait.</p>
<p>^ It's amusing in a bizarre way. Plus, why not. It's summer.</p>
<p>Dyanne-please see my earlier response--#53 of this thread. I just confirmed this again with D. Perhaps her sorority is exceptional in this area...I don't know. She could only laugh when I asked about athletes in her house getting fined for missing activities because of varsity/club sports. She said that is crazy. She misses events all the time, which is natural since there are always so many activities. Many (most) of her sorority involvement is purely voluntary. There are certain very important events (initiation, bid day, chapter meetings) that you are expected to attend unless you have a good excuse (believe me, varsity sports is one), but otherwise most events are optional. UVAmale is right to say that a fine could be leveled for missing an activity, but not for duty to school. At least at D's sorority.....
She also says she has many friends in sports that are not in the Greek life--and they do just fine without being greek. So do most others. Only a third of UVa is greek--that means about 8K kids are not. Living in Charlottesville and going to college.....what could be better?</p>
<p>some of my favorite parties this past semester actually happened in my dorm room and other parts of Brown.</p>
<p>I kinda miss Brown.</p>
<p>in soviet russia, Brown misses you!</p>
<p>"As the girl went to a basically all Asian high school, she had few non Asian friends when she came to college. Also, she noticed that her high school friends and other fellow Asians at college would just stick to the Asian crowd/clique, thereby limiting themselves a lot. That sense of pride and accomplishment comes from the fact that for the first time in her life, she had and took the chance to broaden her horizon of friends. She didn't just play it safe and stick with people she knew, she took chances and made other friends.</p>
<p>There, your explanation. Now get off her blog."</p>
<p>(As the above is not a personal attack, I feel it's safe to post it here.)</p>
<p>I'm just wondering in what ways would Asians limit themselves by hanging out with other Asians? I guess this means that when you see a bunch of white people sitting together at the dining hall, they're limiting themselves too! So in theory, it's quite hypocritical to be friends with people of the same race who themselves, especially in a sorority environment, tend to stick within their (white) race. If this girl "took her chances" to presumably make friends with white people, she definitely associated herself with taking a risk. But why she has to feel this fear is due to the fact that she probably sees hanging out with Asians as "playing it safe", instead of playing with fire. And you can't just clump all Asians as belonging to one category. That's just ignorant. </p>
<p>I love it when my research involves reading up entertaining stuff!</p>