FSU and UFL decisions

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<p>Hi, I live in texas and applied to Univ. of Florida and Florida State Univ. Last week UFL sent me a letter saying that i had been waitlisted and that they would reconsider me in May. I was accepted to FSU though. I really want to go to florida since my family lives there, however, I was hoping I would be accepted to UFl since they appear to have a better medicine program and is overall more prestigious. At this point, with Ap tests coming up and a so much to study for, i feel exhausted and , honestly, am not willing to do the whole progress report and recampaigning in order to reverse the waitlisted status. Therefore, does anyone know if it would be easier to transfer to UFL after two years, assuming that my academic performance is abover the average during these 2 years at FSU? Also, is it possible to be accepted from the waitlist without sending any additional material to the institution, just by waiting? lastly, does anyone know khow many students were drawn from the waitlist last year for UFL?</p>

<p>I guess going to FSU for the undergraduate studies wouldn't be so terrible after all.It is just that recently i have heard bad things about FSU being merely a party college with little academic efficiency.</p>

<p>I would appreciate if someone could help me with those questions.</p>

<p>Ps: I was an average student in high school and current average is 90.40.
SATs also within both colleges' average scores.</p>

<p>Thank you in advance</p>

<p>i was waitlisted at UF too and accepted to FSU. i would not put much stock on WL, if you really want to go to UF you should call them. i heard they had a ton of very competetive applications and it was very difficult to get in this year. I am still deciding on FSU, for me it is free with bright futures and other schol they have given me. but i just dont know yet. FSU altho more and more i am hearing it is a party school , is a good school and has a lot to offer. you should really call UF and see what your chances are withthe WL/
there is another person who is appealing the rejected deicison from UF; i read his thread on the CC, i think in UF thread, maybe email him and see how his appleal went. good luck..</p>

<p>I think that if you want to party you can, but I'm willing to bet theres a lot of people there who are really serious about their education. It all depends on what you want to do.</p>

<p>I suggest that either school is acceptable and will give you a solid education, but only if you do the work. It really should depend upon the program/major you want: if it's Physics, Fine Arts, Film or Criminology (plus many more) go to Florida State; if it's Vet training, the building trades or engineering go to UF. Scour the web site for each school and see what program interests you. Both schools are regulated by the state and do not have much crossover in programs. FSU is the original liberal arts school in Florida and has many world-class programs that are exceedingly tough to get into. UF is more of an Ag school. If you qualify for Honors, each has a nice program.</p>

<p>Oh, one last comment - FSU is a huge state university just like UF. You will find plenty of kids at either school on their way to flunking out who party too much. Forget such nonsense and get the program area that fits your long-term goals.</p>

<p>About 'prestige' - FSU has the Alpha (first) chapter of Phi Beta Kappa for a reason; UF has the Beta (second). Don't believe sales hype.</p>

<p>thank you very much parent2noles for the reply...
Do you have a s/d at FSU? If so, what does he/she think about the school ? I was looking at the medice programs at FSU, including the phd research that they recently started offering. I am also interested in Biochemistry and Biology, do you know if FSU has good teachers and an overall program covering such courses? </p>

<p>By the way, does anyone know if it's possible to apply for the Honors program for the graduate studies, in case you don't qualify since the undergrad? I believe my SAT scores came a liytle short from the required for the Honors program. Do students accepted into the honors take different, more advanced classes? For example, does a student taking molecular biology attend the same class as a honors student taking the same course? Or is the latter placed in a special class with only the honors students?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>UF's honors program requires much higher stats than FSU's honors program. I think that pretty much tells the story. Although the FSU film school has an excellent national reputation, as does the music program. Otherwise, few in the state of Florida, including FSU alums, would disagree that UF is superior academically.
OP: It is harder to get into either school when you are from another state. So you most likely have better stats than many accepted students and may be able to get off the waitlist with much contact to the admissions department telling them how much you want to attend UF.</p>

<p>Let's see what happens in may.
I knew getting into UF would be extremely difficult since only about 4% of the students are from out of state and since i applied late. I guess if i do my best at either school, I will be able to extract the most from the experience. I contacted the admissions department and pleaded my case, but it is the first time UF has used a waitlist and I couldn't find any statistics for waitlisted students. </p>

<p>Can anyone speculate how many candidates(%) will be pulled from the UF waitlist this year?</p>

<p>Also, are the chances better for transfer students at UF, assuming the student has an impressive academic performance?</p>

<p>Thank you</p>

<p>I have a daughter who is a biochemistry major at Florida State. She was accepted at UF, but the opportunities to do undergraduate research at FSU, plus the Tallahassee hills and beautiful campus won her over. Her goal is med school and she will be very competitive at any med school with a degree in such a rigorous major. She may even go to UF med school, who knows.</p>

<p>I am also an FSU grad whose father is a UF grad. Those academic rankings change over time, and don't mean too much in the long run as long as the individual works to the best of their ability and takes advantage of opportunities. When I attended FSU (1970s) FSU had the stronger academic ranking than UF. Right now UF has an edge, if you can call it that, in freshman applicant statistics and I suggest they enjoy it while it lasts.</p>

<p>Forget the rankings nonsense and get into the program of your passion.</p>

<p>There are two ways to get into the Honors program at FSU and this probably works for UF as well. The first is to qualify upon entry with a 1300+ SAT (this number varies each year) and appropriate high school grades/coursework. The second is to petition the program after at least one semester with a minimum number of university hours and a certain GPA. You can be bounced out of the program if you don't maintain the GPA and take a certain number of honors courses, which generally require more work than a regular class. The requirements change, so check with the honors folks for the latest information.</p>

<p>At FSU, the honors program opens many doors to select professors and advantages in registration (with grad students), class sizes, dorms and opportunites. The programs they call 'Limited Access' are extremly tough to enter, with some having an admission rate of less than 10%.</p>

<p>I am an FSU grad but currently an ongoing night student at a remote campus of UF. FSU is the older institution (1851), but UF (1853) is the land grant college. UF is strongest in applied sciences and agriculture, more like the 'State' universities in other states (NC State, Michigan State, Mississippi State, etc.), has been for years. FSU is strongest in the pure sciences, business and the arts, has one of the country's oldest and best meteorology and oceanography programs, an outstanding school of music and school of theater, and is more involved with the state government since Tallahassee is the state capital. It is true that FSU has the state of Florida's first chapter of Phi Beta Kappa, the nation's most prestigious honor society. Florida now has a number of satellite state universities (FIU, FAU, UNF, UCF, USF, UWF) that are mainly commuter colleges, but FSU and UF remain the two traditional 'ivy covered walls' and collegiate Gothic architecture flagship universities. Florida originally designed state universities so that they would not duplicate programs; therefore, you cannot go wrong at either place, simply figure out which program you are most interested in and then which school has that program. The choice from there should be obvious.</p>

<p>Hybrid_owner:</p>

<p>You said it best, being familiar with the programs in both UF and FSU. I went to graduate schools in UF and am only familiar with the meteorology and oceanography programs of FSU (Prof. James J O'brien and COAPS) where some of my weatherman friends graduated from.</p>

<p>But so is parent2noles, on both schools being huge and have their own fair share of students who help perpetuate the myth of partying schools.</p>

<p>Hi Ivy,</p>

<p>I had you figured for a gator. I thought the UCB nonsense was merely a misdirection all along.</p>

<p>I did you too, parent2noles.</p>

<p>But the UCB bit was no nosense, gator nation included, as I was a Cal Bear earlier in my academic life. So let's agree to disagree and move on.</p>

<p>Consider it done.</p>