<p>Wasn’t FSU already offered admission to the SEC and selected the ACC instead?</p>
<p>I have heard nothing to indicate UF is against FSU’s entry to the SEC except some fan conversations.</p>
<p>A year ago when expansion began I heard regarding FSU that “four SEC
Presidents” had an agreement to block an FSU entry into the SEC. Times
change, and yes, the money via networks and possible playoffs is huge.
Eventually, four conferences with 16 teams each will call the shots for a
national championship playoff. These will be the B1G, SEC, PAC12 and
possibly the ACC but who knows how the ACC and Big East will get carved
up. The ACC and Big East could lose teams as the B1G adds schools moving
east. Rumored to become members of the B1G are UNC and Duke-- Delaney
the commisioner of the B1G is a UNC grad. Maryland and Rutgers have been
talked about, opening up the NYC and Washington T.V. markets for the Big
Ten Network. In the game of musical chairs that will play out, FSU might
want to get a seat in the SEC now.</p>
<p>Just my .02 David</p>
<p>If only 64 colleges get in the mega-conferences playing for national championship, what’s going to happen with the schools left out of the party. Maybe the 64 will have to throw a couple of bones from the big TV money pot to them to keep the shutout schools from kicking up an antitrust suit and having the US Supreme court decide athletic conference realignments?</p>
<p>Tallalassie-- I would expect legal action. Heck, legal action happened with
the BCS system. Result- a compromise for non BCS schools like TCU and Boise.
Ranked in the poles high enough can get you a seat in a BCS Bowl or the
NC game. </p>
<p>I doubt the court dictates conference alignment as you suggest. Even with
legal action, TAMU will end up in the SEC. I’d like to see FSU in the SEC as
well. Now, who will be the final 2 in the SEC. OU and Okie State will go to
the PAC12. So, the final 2 will likely come from the ACC and/or the Big East.
My point is if the B1G moves east in expanding it will take 2,3 or 4 schools
depending on what happens with Texas and Notre Dame. Two more schools
will be drawn into the SEC, one hopefully FSU. But there will be one more. The
ACC/Big East could lose 6 or more schools to realignment. Then what? Does
the Big East or ACC collapse? Do these two conferences come together in
some fashion to form the 4th super conference? If so, FSU would continue
to have a direct road to the NC game. FSU might be better off in a reconfigured
ACC since it would be the weakest football conference of the 4 superconferences.</p>
<p>Just my opinion, but I think the final configuration will be known within 6 months.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts. David</p>
<p>I’m now getting a vibe FSU will stay in ACC. I wonder if that $20 million exit penalty the ACC presidents just approved would really have to be paid if FSU still went to SEC–I’d bet there is fine print that FSU could dodge the fee if FSU bolted out of ACC.</p>
<p>The new $20 million payout to the ACC for leaving coupled with the addition of Pitt and Syracuse, and the rumored addition of UConn and Rutgers in the near future makes me believe more than I already did that FSU is committed- at this time- to staying in the ACC. </p>
<p>I do not get what the infatuation with the SEC was anyway. FSU is already in a conference where, on an almost annual basis, they can compete for the conference title in the biggest sport. Going to the SEC on the other hand would mean likely a drop back down to mid-pack at best, declining ticket sales, and in turn, less revenue. </p>
<p>In all likelihood, staying in the ACC is a better option. Not only because it means potential trips to the Orange Bowl every year (which pays handsomely to even the loser, much less the winner), it also means a good shot at being competitive every year. A move to the SEC would likely be a deathblow to the very resurgence everyone is all happy about now. FSU cannot compete with the SEC powerhouses. At best, if FSU was in the SEC (and to make things even less unlikely, let’s say they are in the East) this year, they MIGHT win the division, and then would be absolutely demolished by either LSU or Alabama. Which would in turn mean that they are relegated to another year playing in the No One Cares Bowl. </p>
<p>Staying in the ACC would mean likely only having to beat a Virginia Tech team that honestly hasn’t looked all that great in their games this year, in order to win the conference. A trip to the Orange Bowl at this point looks like a very good possibility.</p>
<p>Besides, Florida does not want to have the possibility of the UF-FSU rivalry to, on a yearly basis, end up kicking them out of the SEC title game. If UF and FSU were in different divisions within the SEC, and both were locked into the title game before they played each other, what is the point of that yearly Thanksgiving rivalry, when they are going to play each other the following week on the big stage? </p>
<p>I just don’t think it makes sense to move to the SEC- before or after the ACC’s penalty was increased.</p>
<p>Yes, FSU should stay in the ACC as they are in the catbird seat. The ACC
is going to be a big winner in this musical chairs of colleges. Agreed, FSU has
a nice route each year to a fine bowl game plus occasionally to the NC game.
Recent ACC additions of Pitt and Syracuse present no huge challenge in football,
FSU should win 4 out of 5 or more of these football games moving forward. On
the other hand, Pitt and Syracuse play fabulous basketball which should press
FSU to improve its’ hardwood game. This is just fine. </p>
<p>It looks like the ACC told Texas to take a flying leap. ACC was just getting
used by the 'horns. It is starting to look like the B1G does not want Texas on
their terms (barf), the ACC does not want Texas on their terms (barf), and who
knows the PAC may ultimately not want Texas on their terms (barf). </p>
<p>Just one college football junkie’s opinion but it is all falling FSU’s way. The
ACC is going to be a big solid conference with fine academics to go with
fine athletics. </p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>Staying in the ACC seems most likely scenario for FSU now, especially after this past weekend’s public announcements of Syracuse and Pitt joining conference and news of the new $20 million exit penalty. But remember FSU hasn’t even finished forming its committee yet to fully review FSU conference options. Bombshell news hits quick and it is not yet set in stone what FSU will end up doing. Affiliating with the best athletic conference for FSU and the associated revenue stream for maybe next 50 years plus is not something to make a quick decision about without reviewing all options. FSU still seems to have the luxury of some time to make its decision and rightly needs to look at everything.</p>
<p>Late yesterday the PAC12 stated they would remain at 12 schools- pat hand.
They intend to focus on developing their network and preserving their “culture
of equality.” If that isn’t a dig at the University of Texas and the giant sucking
greed they have come to be known for, I don’t know what is. If Texas turns
back toward playing the ACC, FSU should stand up and say stay away from toxic
Texas.</p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>I think FSU should stay in the ACC. </p>
<p>The ACC is far better academically than the SEC and the wide perception of ACC academic excellence is imparted to FSU which allows the attraction of better faculty and students.</p>
<p>There is some talk now of Notre Dame joining the ACC.</p>
<p>Parent2Noles-- With regard to Notre Dame and the ACC, anything is possible but
I really doubt it.</p>
<p>Notre Dame continues to state its’ pledge to remain Independent in football. It
currently plays basketball and other sports thru a Big East affiliation. So long
as the Big East is viable I suspect this will not change. </p>
<p>As a Polish boy from Chicago I am familiar with Notre Dame and would expect it
to affiliate in football only when it is pushed into a conference by the need for
a conference affiliation for a playoff system to the football NC. I suspect that
affiliation will ultimately be the B1G and that is for two more reasons-- a. Hockey.
Hockey is a big deal in the B1G and growing-- Notre Dame takes its’ hockey
seriously. b. With B1G affiliation comes a seat at the CIC table and for collaborative
grantsmanship etc, etc that is huge.</p>
<p>Just my .02 and again, anything is possible as the ground continues to move.</p>
<p>Good point, bn12gg. I hadn’t considered hockey. </p>
<p>We don’t get too much snow and ice down here. ;)</p>
<p>P2N-- Hockey is a very interesting factor for realignment as I type. Some
view it as the parakeet in cage as used by miners to test for bad air in the
mine. What I mean by this is the hockey league that Notre Dame has been
playing in is recently defunct. A new league made up of non B1G members formed
and at one time Notre Dame had said it was going to join it. That league
has formed but Notre Dame has not joined up, just sitting. Why is Notre Dame
not involving itself with the non B1G league and simply sitting? I suspect it
continues to test the B1G waters for a deal it can sell to alumni and one that
is a financial winner. The parakeet continues to live. Talks continue.</p>
<p>Notre Dame was turned down a year or so ago when it asked the B1G to play
B1G conference hockey. The B1G does not do associate membership - the
response.</p>
<p>My opinion is that if Notre Dame comes to the ACC it won’t be to play football
but to house its’ non football sports. Oh, they won’t becoming to the ACC to
play hockey either.</p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>I don’t think Notre Dame would get accepted into the ACC as an “everything but football” school personally. Sure, it gives the ACC yet another very good basketball school, but the ACC can attract just as good, if not better, teams that want to play in the ACC- in all sports. </p>
<p>I don’t think Texas will end up in the ACC. It might just be me, but the Atlantic Coast Conference should be made up of teams along the Atlantic Coast… something that Texas isn’t (then again, the Big East shouldn’t have a team in Texas, so…). Plus, with the Longhorn Network, I think Texas is going to have to end up going independent in football at this rate. It’s starting to sound like Texas isn’t going to get what they want if they don’t stay where they are… and then they might not get what they want then.</p>
<p>I think Texas going to PAC. Notre Dame seems firm in not entering their football team into a conference. I think the ACC might just take them without football, but will put on the pressure to get them with football.</p>
<p>Notre Dame will never cast its’ football history in the ACC
conference.</p>
<p>Shakes Down the Thunder!!!</p>
<p>My .02 David</p>
<p>Early this a.m. it is being reported on the Northwestern Rivals football
board that The University of Texas has signed a Letter of Intent to join
the B1G in 2014. hmmmmm ? Interesting. Should be a fun day watching
the various football boards as this is denied or endorsed etc. – not my
favorite Athletic Department but if this is true the ultimate goal is a football
playoff system.</p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>Oh, given the wealth of the UT Athletic Department, I suspect their new
hockey team will begin B1G conference play in 2015!! </p>
<p>As the earth continues to move, we may hear Thunder. Anything is
possible.</p>
<p>New reports involving all this:</p>
<p>The Big 12 Commish, Dan Beebe, is stepping down:
[Dan</a> Beebe working to leave job as Big 12 Conference commissioner, report says - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7002818/dan-beebe-working-leave-job-big-12-conference-commissioner-report-says]Dan”>http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7002818/dan-beebe-working-leave-job-big-12-conference-commissioner-report-says)</p>
<p>Also from that article:
So it looks like Texas isn’t the only school that’s seemingly making demands about the Big 12. Although I’m not sure whether they really are in a position, when it’s already rumored that there’s pretty much a package deal with OU, OSU, TTU, and UT all going to the PAC 12 that’s apparently pretty much ready to be agreed on. </p>
<p>Also interesting:
East Carolina has applied to join the Big East (from Conference USA, I believe)
[East</a> Carolina applies for Big East Conference membership - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7001803/east-carolina-applies-big-east-conference-membership]East”>http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7001803/east-carolina-applies-big-east-conference-membership)
Isn’t Air Force in the MWC right now? And here we are thinking that TCU in the Big East doesn’t make sense, they’re supposedly wanting a team from Colorado in. </p>
<p>Also apparently the PAC 12 has announced that they are not looking to expand. I saw that pop up on the video for the East Carolina article. </p>
<p>Also from the ECU article:
Personally, Villanova makes more sense than Air Force, Army, or Navy, but then again, there’s a reason I’m a college student and not one of those officials making the big bucks.</p>
<p>If the 4 conferences with 16 teams each are the B1G, SEC, PAC, and the ACC,
how does Texas and Notre Dame get to the NC game? Thoughts?</p>
<p>Too many dwarfs in the B12 and Big East. Texas and Notre Dame need
to affiliate with one of the Superconferences.</p>
<p>Oklahoma would seem to need a Superconference spot as well.</p>
<p>Let the shuffle continue-- or is it a scramble.</p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>Maybe Texas has a planning partner. From a message board, fwiw.</p>
<p>[WildcatReport.com</a> - Message Boards](<a href=“http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=163241898&mid=163241898&sid=901&style=2]WildcatReport.com”>http://northwestern.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=57&tid=163241898&mid=163241898&sid=901&style=2)</p>
<p>Big Ten and Texas Created a “Letter of Intent” Reply</p>
<p>Tonight, the University of Texas president Bill Powers co-authored a letter of intent with the Big Ten conference. </p>
<p>The key terms include:</p>
<ul>
<li>the University of Texas will in good faith conduct discussions with the Big Ten conference and no other conference related to its post-2012 conference affiliation</li>
<li>the Big Ten will not invite any other institution to join the conference without the prior approval of Texas</li>
<li>before joining the Big Ten, Texas will have assurances that it can schedule four non-Big Ten conference football games per season</li>
<li>the requirement that any final arrangement be designed to increased revenues among all Big Ten conference schools, with no discrepancies in distributions unrelated to television network distributions among conference institutions</li>
<li>Texas will become a full CIC member</li>
<li>Texas and the Big Ten will jointly approve any third party media arrangements related to Texas athletics moving forward</li>
<li>the goal that Texas participates as a full member of the conference beginning in the fall of 2014</li>
</ul>
<p>Texas’ intentions with regard to the Big Ten will remain without official announcements until a specific group of universities, including the current Texas’ Big XII schools, solidify their own conference affiliation status. Neither the Big Ten nor Texas wishes to be seen as the primary driving force in conference realignment.</p>
<p>The decision of Syracuse and Pittsburg to join the ACC came unexpectedly to the Big Ten. Certain leaders of the conference remained uncertain that a similar unexpected action could take place on the heels of the meeting of the Texas Board of Regents, particularly given the lack of uniform communications between Texas stakeholders and the conference. These individuals no longer have such uncertainties.</p>