<p>No offense, but many people on this thread are resorting to broad generalizations based on personal experiences, (as evidence???) which is no way to categorize an entire cultural group. I’ve met people from every part of the spectrum within each culture. Motivated and unmotivated people are not so because of the color of their skin. There is diversity, even among cultures. Just as president Obama was focusing on what might be described as “unmotivated” African American youth, we can all come up with some similar stereotypes for virtually every culture.</p>
<p>That was not a wikipedia study…it was a study from the US Census Bureau (sourced), wiki is simply a convenient medium for information. If you check sources the info is highly reliable. </p>
<p>And of course the argument is NOT that “black people dont have aspirations”…that is crazy. Everybody is human and has aspirations…some are just set back by certain economic problems. All Im saying is that because of a complex number of factors, it is somewhat rare (purely statistically) for blacks in America to become wealthy. It isnt because they are black it is because of their socioeconomic status.</p>
<p>I’m not saying black people don’t have aspirations. I’m saying that many don’t find themselves in very successful careers outside of sports and entertainment–in medicine, corporate, etc. I think we all understand that there are certain environments that can impede a person’s success.</p>
<p>It just seems as if your putting yourself on a high horse because your black and in college, and using data to support that horse and also putting a WHOLE community of people down in the process. </p>
<p>Someone on this thread did say that black people have no aspirations, all im saying is TWO things:</p>
<p>You don’t know EVERY black person!
& you will never, ever, ever, ever be able to tell who has aspirations or not. </p>
<p>lol now this really has me thinking & I’m wondering how many black students put “I’m the only black person In my neighborhood who aspired to be something” in their personal statement, all of them canceling each other out…be happy you became who you are as an individual : )</p>
<p>UM. I’m not black but I am in college. Of course, skin color does not determine the amount of motivation you can or do possess. </p>
<p>How is he (she?) putting a community down? Facts are facts. Common knowledge is common knowledge. </p>
<p>EX:
Do Asians generally do well in school? Yes. Do all? No. Does the fact that many of them do well in school mean they are super duper smart and better than everyone else? Of course not.</p>
<p>I’m not talking to you @aninstance, maybe it was the ignorant way you worded your question earlier, I don’t really know but after that I assumed you weren’t black. I highly doubt (I might be wrong) that a black person would say something like that about their own race…</p>
<p>How is that ignorant when it’s true? If anyone is clouded by delusion and ignorance, it is you. My question had nothing to do with aspiration or motivation–in the sense that there is a severe lack of it.</p>
<p>lmao.</p>
<p>10char.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>10char…</p>
<p>"This is so confusing… Is it wrong to say that it’s simply common knowledge that black people don’t really find themselves becoming doctors and CEO’s? "</p>
<p>-The great Aninstance</p>
<p>I meant that the thread was confusing because the topic suddenly changed and because I couldn’t believe you guys can’t recognize reality…</p>
<p>I’m great? Thank you<3</p>
<p>Samy you have no valid argument. You attacked a black person because he/she was proud of their accomplishments/goals by saying it was nothing special… and yet a simple search reveals blacks in America have very low representation in the 100k+ salary range…thus it IS very unique for them to be on a path to be a professional who makes 100k/year (in this case a dentist). </p>
<p>If you want to argue, lets do it properly… address a point and refute it.</p>
<p>lmao, I didn’t say anything like that…please don’t try and twist my words when the evidence is a page away. </p>
<p>okay I’m ignorant for thinking EVERYONE has or has had an aspiration lol. That’s all I argued, so all your stats & salary range has absolutely nothing to do with what I was trying to explain…</p>
<p>You keep trying to argue with me about information that has nothing to do with my argument. I said what I had to say.</p>
<p>Im practicing arguments for my philosophy class!</p>
<p>I honestly couldnt care less about this “argument” Just tryin to kill time lol ;)</p>
<p>im back, and i appreciate those who understand what i am trying to say.</p>
<p>umm im black and im saying it. because such is truth, facts.</p>
<p>[Appendix</a> A: Data Findings ? Expanded | Equity, Inclusion, and Diversity](<a href=“http://diversity.berkeley.edu/SP_data_expanded#undergrads]Appendix”>http://diversity.berkeley.edu/SP_data_expanded#undergrads)</p>
<p>[UC</a> Davis News & Information :: UC Davis Facts: Student Headcount by Ethnicity](<a href=“http://facts.ucdavis.edu/student_headcount_ethnicity.lasso]UC”>http://facts.ucdavis.edu/student_headcount_ethnicity.lasso)</p>
<p>just look at those statistics, where do “we” fall on all those pie charts and bar graphs?</p>
<p>Pinkfriday - I completely agree with you that our numbers are low, and its sad. I am in a program at UCLA designed specifically to increase their numbers of black students. I was just saying don’t speak for every black person when you talk about motivation. I am lucky enough to know a highly motivated group of black students who want to change the way things are. The way you were talking before was taking two steps back.</p>
<p>ohhh def not EVERYONE is this way, but just a shame like you said that the “numbers are low”.</p>
<p>but in reply to the OP question, i was just saying i think it is a “benefit”…in “our” case, “our” meaning true minorities, like native americans, blacks, other URM’s</p>