because transfer is reallyyy hard in the ivies
is it possible to attend a college, purdue, for example, full ride.
and then, one year later, apply to upenn as a FRESHMAN
NOT As a transfer.
is it possible?
i mean, you’d lose all ur credits from purdue. but who cares.
the chances are greater.
And, you don’t lose a year doing nothing…you get to learn at a college for free.
<p>First of all, the title for this thread sucks. And no, you cant.</p>
<p>And, you don't lose a year doing nothing...</p>
<p>If that is your perception of the gap year, I am very sorry for you. Sure, some people could lose an year doing nothing, but they would not be those who apply to selective colleges. If you take a gap year it does not mean that you'll have to be at home, sitting on the couch, staying in front of the TV, drinking beer and watching reruns of Seinfeld.</p>
<p>dude, i dont even understand what u want to ask</p>
<p>crimson,</p>
<p>some people take a gap year off to get to their college of their choice a 2nd time ..b.ecause they're not admitted the first time.
they apply as a freshman after the gap year.</p>
<p>what i'm saying is:</p>
<p>go to a free ride college.
but when time comes, apply to ur dream school again.
Apply as a FRESHMAN To your dream school instead of a TRANSFER.
(and pretend u didnt go to college and lose all your credits for that year)</p>
<p>^ i want to do that (if i dont make it in my dream school 1st shot)
just because i REALLY want to go to my dream school.
and i KNOW that Transfer is WAYYY harder than Freshmen to get in.
if something goes wrong and i don't get into my dream school my 2nd shot...at least i'm already attending a college.</p>
<p>sry for confusion..
get what i mean?</p>
<p>Which is your dream school?</p>
<p>Some colleges state specifically that you cannot discount credit, you will have to check with their policy. </p>
<p>Bear in mind one thing, though. If you apply to the same college after an year, you cannot pretend to be a "brand-new" applicant. You have an year between you and high-school and you would need to account for what you did during that period. Saying that you did not attend college might work or not, but what would you report doing that year? Staying at home? I'm sure not. If you're that focused on getting into one school you might think about making facts up - I am not suggesting it, nor do I want to discuss its morality here - but the adcoms will, most likely, see right through you. You cannot write passionately about that outreach trip in Guatemala without actually doing it (I know you think you actually can, but trust me, you can't). </p>
<p>The point I am trying to make is that the gap year can strenghten the application in many instances - though it is not a booster per se, but rather in an indirect manner. You are going to see things differently in the autumn-winter of the gap year, when you would be filling your freshman application again. How differently you see them, and how much this would improve your prospects depends only on you and your experiences.I am not sure what kind of different experiences a nitty-gritty college year can bring. </p>
<p>Let me caution you on another issue - slacking. Since your grades would not matter, you could end up focusing only on getting into Dream School and not paying enough attention to current assignments, which may be fine if you do get into Dream School but could have disastrous consequences otherwise.</p>
<p>Another thing - who is paying for your education? Are your parents willing to support you for another year into college just because you want so?</p>
<p>chanman,</p>
<p>If you've taken even one college level course after HS graduation you are considered a TRANSFER not a FRESHMAN. So, you definitely cannot take an entire year at another school and reapply. </p>
<p>Transferring into Penn is probably easier than as a freshman simply because you are judged moreso on your collegiate performance and less on your HS performance. </p>
<p>If you have a 1350 or so on your SATs and a 3.7ish GPA from a good school you have a good shot at Penn.</p>
<p>I believe Chanman suggested that he apply to UPenn in the original post, not Penn. You -typically- have to have better stats than a 3.7, 1350 to get in to U Penn.</p>
<p>Peals, I'm a transfer student at Penn (who calls us UPenn?). A 1350 and a 3.7 GPA from a top 50 school makes him competitive for transfer admissions. Penn = U of Penn. PSU = Penn State. I'd rather not call you names.</p>
<p>Chanman,</p>
<p>In my opinion you should do this because if you dont get into your dream school u wont lose 1 yr which is super but make sure upenn doesn't mind u going to college at an other university.</p>
<p>Elisa, that makes no sense, no offense. Penn won't allow him to apply as a freshman if he's already had schooling elsewhere.</p>
<p>Call me names! Oooh, scary! A bit of kindergarden-esque name calling will really make you look threatening!</p>
<p>I've personally heard Penn State referred to as Penn, so I referred to it in my post as such. </p>
<p>Get over yourself, enviorman. "I'd rather not call you names." Oh, please. Don't make me laugh at you more than I already have.</p>
<p>Yet you do nothing to support your asinine claim that a 1350 and a 3.7 GPA isn't competitive at Penn. But keep your incredible ignorance on display. It's pretty sweet.</p>
<p>You are considered a freshman applicant only if you have taken fewer than a given number of credits (24 standard?), I believe. The application instructions cover this situation. Courses taken while in highschool do not count, nor do AP creditis. But it is not considered legit to go to a college and then reapply as a freshman. Take a good look at the app for UPenn for specifics. </p>
<p>When you take a gap year and reapply to schools, those schools are very interested in what you do during that year. If you are a full time student at a university, it would be a bold faced lie to cover this up.</p>
<p>ok thanks.</p>
<p>i guess there really is no way to get around the system</p>
<p>... over nothing?</p>
<p>You GO to UPenn, you should know how highly it's ranked and how competitive it is to get accepted. Why is it "wrong" and "asinine" to say that, as I posted, "You -typically- have to have better stats than a 3.7, 1350 to get in to U Penn"? Unless, of course, YOU personally had WORSE stats, and are therefore feeling offended that I seem to be suggesting that those stats aren't "competitive." </p>
<p>Penn is ranked the fourth best university in the nation. Isn't it reasonable to suggest that TYPICALLY, as I said, you need to have better stats than a 3.7, 1350 to be accepted? </p>
<p>From Princeton Review:
"Average SAT: 1412
Average ACT: 30"</p>
<p>From Collegeboard:</p>
<p>Penn students are
"94% in top 10th of graduating class
99% in top quarter of graduating class
100% in top half of graduating class"</p>
<p>As I mentioned, I didn't say that the 3.7/1350 stats weren't competitive. I just inferred that usually, accepted students have achieved BETTER than that. </p>
<p>"But keep your incredible ignorance on display. It's pretty sweet."</p>
<p>Uh huh. As I said before, give me a break. I'm surprised you're a Penn student, when you can't even understand my posts and instead start assuming things about what I consider academically "competitive." And as I mentioned, name calling or threatening to name call is what small children did back in elementary school.</p>
<p>But if you want to go the route of childish insults, I'll go along too, to humor you. So... you say you're in "A state of constant cerebral arousal"?</p>
<p>Is that achieved by having your head stuck up your a**? </p>
<p>Seriously, learn to read instead of getting offended over nothing.</p>