<p>you will fit right in with all the other losers here.</p>
<p>KrispyCorpse, “have you no sense of decency?”</p>
<p>I lost it after 1 quarter at UCR (UC ■■■■■■■■).</p>
<p>Also, I think my user name would have answered that question.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I transferred from a California community college, so I only half a few quarters left. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I only have a few quarters left. I will graduate with a degree from a poorly rated institution, and as a result, have no future prospects except for K-mart or McDonald’s. My only hope is that my somewhat competitive GPA, and a future GRE score of similar measure will get me into a meaningful graduate studies program. Obviously I am crushed, because I have no faith in my ability to perform well on the GRE. Standardized tests aren’t my forte. </p>
<p>I read somewhere the average UCR graduate’s income at midlife is less than that of a graduate from CSU Chico. </p>
<p>Additionally, living in Riverside has been an extremely unpleasant experience.</p>
<p>Save yourself some money OP, and just go to community college. Then transfer here. If you still want to attend school here at UCR.</p>
<p>Honestly, I have thought about it as well. Prestige is one thing, but when it comes down to undergraduate it’s not a BIG problem.</p>
<p>UC education is of course better than CSU’s and CC’s. </p>
<p>I won’t say I disagree or agree with you, but I’ve read similar rants like this before. Though, I think you went a little too far when you included Mc kee D’s…</p>
<p>I disagree. A lower division course at a UC could be much worse than one at a community college. At my community college there were many Ph.D’s who actually taught at a UC, CSU, or other campus. Many seem to have left academia, but taught PT at the community college level. Some of these classes could be very small as well. I would say some classes at the community college are in fact more difficult due to the direct attention the student receives from the professor. </p>
<p>I can’t comment much on CSU, but I would say they are more career oriented. However, the downside is that you might end up pigeon-holed.</p>
<p>I chose UCR. I had other options. I am not sure I would be much happier at another UC. If I did it over again, I would look into many more private schools. I almost think I would appreciate a more insular or homogeneous environment. Even with all the “diversity” at UCR, the variety of worldviews is surprisingly lacking. Most students just have American lower-middle class views on everything, with the exception of various university propped student groups like feminist, LGBT, and Black/Latino organizations which espouse hackneyed messages. There is no innovation in thought. Quite sad.</p>
<p>Why don’t you do yourself and us a favor, and get the hell out? Don’t you have lots of other options? UCR might not be the greatest university out there, but your attitude is even worse.</p>
<p>UC Riverside must definitely be bad to accept someone like you.</p>
<p>The fact that you seem to blame the educational level of the university on the professors, not the students’ work themselves, suggests that you did poorly in grades/class
- You also blame your career prospects on the university - which is such fail I laugh at you</p>
<p>wishing for an insular and homogenous environment suggests that you were uncomfortable with the prevailing political attitudes that people had at UCR</p>
<p>the fact that you seem to find a lack of diversity and “worldviews” in UCR is stupid - the regions in the world that lack such ethnic diversity tend to be racist.</p>
<p>You also single out feminist, ethnicity, and LGBT groups - you sound ridiculously conservative/ignorant overall, especially with that comment about lower/middle class views.</p>
<p>All I can say is that you’re an idiot</p>
<p>Whiteclock:</p>
<p>All of your commentary seems to indicate a severe inability to read and comprehend anything.</p>
<p>It also demonstrates an inability to communicate effectively (write a legible sentence in English) and extreme immaturity.</p>
<p>I will assume you attend UCR, especially when considering previous postings. You are a perfect example of the type of moron that composes a significant portion of the student body at UCR. Scratch the surface, and you will find what I will call a bratty punk. Unnecessarily aggressive, crude, and devoid of any real intelligence beyond a requisite amount of raw intellect and the dogmas k-12 public education has crammed into your little skull.</p>
<p>If anyone is an idiot, it is probably you.</p>
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<p>I don’t know what you are referring to here. I will just say that many classes at my community college probably had better professors and students than you will find in comparable classes at UCR. I fail to see how you arrived at the conclusion “I did poorly in grades/class.” Hilarious. “Poorly in grades.” I can’t stop laughing.</p>
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<p>This is just some poorly put together and quite arbitrary criticism about my statement. Do you dispute my assertion about a lack of diversity OF (not “and”) worldviews? You seem to imply a university deserves distinguished status just because it is diverse racially. This is what many of what I will call “UCR partisans” grasp at when trying to promote UCR at any cost. UCR does lack intellectual diversity, and vitality.</p>
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<p>So, you find conservatism and ignorance to be synonymous. I suggest the first thing you do is consult a dictionary.<br>
Lower-middle class views can span left and right ideological wings. However, the spectrum is still limited.
Also, ethnicity and race are not the same thing, and are not usually interchangeable terms.
Actually, since attending UCR, I have become dramatically more conservative, and more conscious of race and class.</p>
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<p>So what do you think about people who attend Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) or places like Brigham Young University (BYU). I do not think it is necessarily all that bad if people prefer to study at an institution of higher learning with a student body that they feel more comfortable around. I, personally, would feel more comfortable attending a university that displays more intellectual vitality.</p>
<p>I am not “uncomfortable with the prevailing political attitudes.” I actually appreciate the paucity of radical or minority interest group rhetoric on the campus. Perhaps because you lack the ability to read critically, you failed to notice I find the “prevailing political attitudes” to be more of a farce than anything. The university just pumps up all sorts of clubs and organizations to give the appearance of a vibrant campus. Apathy is what you will find at UCR, and I can actually appreciate that when considering the student body.</p>
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<p>I believe you will find there is a widely held consensus that a graduate’s career prospects are, in part, a product of the significance of the institution that the graduate has studied at. A graduate with a Bachelors in Psychology from the University of Phoenix (actually offered by the University of Phoenix), and a graduate with a Bachelors in Psychology from Stanford will, of course, have vastly different career prospects. There is no denying that fact.</p>
<p>“which is such fail I laugh at you.” Please spend less time on 4chan while in class during the professors’ lectures.</p>
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<p>I am doing precisely that by graduating as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I don’t think I can transfer out very efficiently as a senior. I am just going to have to bite the proverbial bullet.</p>
<p>I’ll admit I have a poor attitude, but its not unjustified. You can just accept that, or I can elaborate if you wish.</p>
<p>Judging from your reply to Whiteclock…Whoa, you are a sad human being. </p>
<p>Seriously, get the hell out already.</p>
<p>I do think that your insults are somewhat justified, given that my previous post was inflammatory - but remember that yours was as well, especially since you managed to **** off another forum member. So, I will post my counter arguments without trying to be a flamer-</p>
<p>I did not say that UCR contains a wide variety of worldviews - rather, that relative to other regions, the university tends to have a much more open view about different ethnic groups, given what I’ve seen when I’ve traveled around the world</p>
<p>My comment about the professors has nothing to do with how well they actually teach - rather, that a student still has some ability to control how much they learn about a subject regardless of their professor’s intellectual abilities</p>
<p>I did not say that conservative = ignorant, just that you seemed to be both. I was insulted by your opinion about lower/middle class views in that you created a blanket statement about a huge portion of the population’s political views - I don’t see how income necessarily has to affect one’s ideologies</p>
<p>I also do know that ethnicity = culture, while race is a more physically based aspect.</p>
<p>I also know that a degree from a different university can have some effect on the reputation of a graduate - however, I know at the same time that people still do rather well after they graduate from college - my cousin knows two UCR graduates who went on to medical school in UC San Francisco and UCLA - I can’t see why you think your prospects are limited simply because of your degree </p>
<p>I do have to agree that my thoughts about the insular and homogenous (I don’t give a crap about spelling) were somewhat unfounded, but I do have to say that such environments do tend to be rather racist, despite the exceptions you provided. </p>
<p>And your comment about 4chan was somewhat odd - if I did go there I would have spelled it phail</p>
<p>Overall, all I can say is that you should try to think that you have more self control over your life - not everything is determined by the teaching level and prestigious reputation of a university, even if it may be severely lacking (note that I didn’t contradict you there)</p>
<p>And please, I’m not the typical UCR undergraduate - </p>
<p>SAT - 2260
AP Physics - 5
AP Calculus AB and BC - 5 and 5
Macroecon - 5
US Government - 5
AP Chem - 5
AP Bio - 5
AP US History - 3 :/</p>
<p>State medalist at Academic Decathlon
Junior Statesmen of America - 2 summer school sessions</p>
<p>And yes, my status as a UCR undergraduate is somewhat odd, but I attribute that to my extreme laziness - I got a 3.0 unweighted GPA in high school, mostly because I couldn’t be bothered to study</p>
<p>You guys sound like “The Debaters.” </p>
<p>WhiteClock, if you don’t mind me asking, but why did you choose UCR over other schools? (I’m assuming you got in other UC’s as well by the looks of your amazing stats)</p>
<p>Lmao, I didn’t</p>
<p>You did note that I got a 3.0 unweighted GPA, right?</p>
<p>and they don’t take AP scores into account in admissions. so w/e</p>
<p>whiteclock, you could have made it to other Uc’s. Did you? Mind sharing? =D</p>
<p>@KrispyCorpse</p>
<p>“Unfortunately, I only have a few quarters left. I will graduate with a degree from a poorly rated institution, and as a result, have no future prospects except for K-mart or McDonald’s. My only hope is that my somewhat competitive GPA, and a future GRE score of similar measure will get me into a meaningful graduate studies program. Obviously I am crushed, because I have no faith in my ability to perform well on the GRE. Standardized tests aren’t my forte.” </p>
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<li>I don’t know what you majored in (Psychology?) but maybe the reason why you couldn’t get a decent job is because of lack of internships? Many employers these days consider internship experience from students rather than the degrees from certain colleges. A few companies might consider the prestige of the colleges, but MOST COMPANIES DON’T CARE (Even grad schools). If you had good grades and professors that could help you, then you would have a lot of opportunities for the internships. UCR is a place where it gives a lot of internship opportunities for students because many companies in Riverside are associated with UCR. I don’t know about your major, but many engineers, business majors, and science majors get a lot of internship opportunities.
It was actually pretty sad when most companies look at the prestige of college when recruiting students. BUT THAT HAS CHANGED. Companies give every school a chance to interview. So if you can make impressive resume, then you wouldn’t have any problem getting a job.</li>
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<p>“I read somewhere the average UCR graduate’s income at midlife is less than that of a graduate from CSU Chico.”</p>
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<li>Where in the world did you even get that statistics from? i also tried to find job employments for certain colleges, but they usually don’t show it on the websites, books, or any other resources. Do you have any resources for that? If you do, could you show us? I have seen successful UCR students getting a job from Google, Intell, Ford, DuPont, British Petroleum, and Fox, especially for comp sci majors. Intelligent people at UCR also go to Harvard, Yale, and UC Berkeley for graduate school. Seriously, what are your resources? I have my resource. Let me show you. Type in Richard Schrock, Charles E. Young, and Steve Breen on google and look at their biography. Richard Schrock was graduated in 1960’s when UCR wasn’t even ranked. Steve Breen graduated in 1998 when UCR started growing. There is a lot more alumnis who became successful after graduating from UCR. Even if the stat is correct, career success DEPENDS ON YOU.</li>
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<p>"I disagree. A lower division course at a UC could be much worse than one at a community college. At my community college there were many Ph.D’s who actually taught at a UC, CSU, or other campus. Many seem to have left academia, but taught PT at the community college level. Some of these classes could be very small as well. I would say some classes at the community college are in fact more difficult due to the direct attention the student receives from the professor. </p>
<p>I can’t comment much on CSU, but I would say they are more career oriented. However, the downside is that you might end up pigeon-holed."</p>
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<li>It is true that CSU schools are more career-oriented and UC schools are usually theoretical so they send a lot of students to grad schools. But it really doesn’t matter where you go because you can go to grad school from CSU and you can go have a career right after college from UC schools. But UCR is definitely not worse that CC. If you actually ask UCR students around campus, most of them feel like they are learning something theoretical that really interest them and many of classes at UCR are actually pretty small compared to other UC schools. You stated that CC courses are harder due to the direct attention the student receives from the professor. So does that mean CC courses are harder than any UC school? Oh, then it must be even harder than UC Berkeley because classes at UC Berkeley are usually crowded.</li>
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<p>“I chose UCR. I had other options. I am not sure I would be much happier at another UC. If I did it over again, I would look into many more private schools. I almost think I would appreciate a more insular or homogeneous environment. Even with all the “diversity” at UCR, the variety of worldviews is surprisingly lacking. Most students just have American lower-middle class views on everything, with the exception of various university propped student groups like feminist, LGBT, and Black/Latino organizations which espouse hackneyed messages. There is no innovation in thought. Quite sad.”</p>
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<li>So you are blaming the environment for failing your life. When you said “most students just have American lower-middle class views on everything”, are you referring to most 18,000 students at UCR? So that many people have American lower-middle class views on everything? You got to realize that every single 18,000 students at UCR have different perceptions and it would make no sense if you are know how every single 18,000 student views. If there are that much people at UCR, why not try to look for a group of people that have similar views with you? There’s about 300 clubs/organizations at UCR and most of them are active and most of them have different views. Maybe you should type “group polarization” on wikipedia and see how different groups have different views.</li>
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<p>“I don’t know what you are referring to here. I will just say that many classes at my community college probably had better professors and students than you will find in comparable classes at UCR. I fail to see how you arrived at the conclusion “I did poorly in grades/class.” Hilarious. “Poorly in grades.” I can’t stop laughing.”</p>
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<li>Once again, your narrow-minded stereotype is applied here. I don’t know what kind of classes you took, but just go to ratemyprofessors website and you will find different opinions on every professor. Your sentences look like you are assuming that every single professor at UCR is worse than CC professors by judging a few professors at UCR. Maybe you didn’t choose the right professors for you or maybe his teaching style didn’t match your learning style. Every school has bad and good professor so don’t even expect private schools are only going to have good professors.</li>
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<p>If you think UCR stands for UC ■■■■■■, then YOU are the ■■■■■■, not the school, not the students, nor the professors. I’m sorry about how you didn’t have a great college experience. But you know what? COLLEGE IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT wherever you go. Even private schools. PLEASE DO NOT POST NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT UCR BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NOT ONLY CRUSHING THE DREAM OF UCR STUDENTS BUT YOU ARE ALSO DISSING THE SCHOOL RESOURCES.</p>
Did you end up being able to go?