<p>Michelle, would you go out with a guy that is just 1 or 2 inches taller than you? Or is that a turn off and you like men that are at least 4 inches taller?</p>
<p>oh and i dont' think she's struggling in that class...its an easy 1.5 credit class anyway...and i did pretty bad on the last test.</p>
<p>Oh, the other thing: I am better than average looking, but I used to dress like a dork. Get some money together, get a stylish woman friend or sister or something and dress yourself up a bit. Clothes can make a big difference. I know it sounds superficial, but there it is. Go for a style and level of stylishness that is you and that is maybe a bit more daring than you'd normally do. And go with clothes that make you feel confident.</p>
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MightyNick: Regarding the woman in your class. You don't have to figure out what she wants. You only have to know what you want. Don't wait for a green light, though it seems that she's giving you one in a pretty straightforward way. But before you make a move to show her your interest, promise me you'll do one thing, okay? Be patient. Don't be overeager. And go and ask other women to go out with you for coffee, to the movies, whatever. Get another date or two lined up before you ask her out. This might not be as feasible for you, 'cause you may be at a small school or something. But work on this. It does two or three things psychologically: 1) it builds your confidence in your ability to do this; 2) when you go out with her, you won't think it's the end of the world if nothing works out; 3) so long as you haven't made or implied any romantic promises to one girl, you will be more attractive to the others if they know you get dates. (But don't announce that you have other dates, obviously.)</p>
<p>I know it seems paradoxical. But it's your best bet.
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<p>Hey that sounds like great advice. I'm actually in a big state school, so there's plenty of fish in the sea :) I pretty much want friendship anyway...nothing more. She's pretty hot though!</p>
<p>Dude, how tall are you? I am 5'8" and the height thing does prevent me from being more confident around girls, especially since even the short girls seem to prefer tall guys nowdays. if you are tall, stick with women your own height so people like me have a chance please!</p>
<p>What do you say is "good attire"? I mean, i hate dressing up ghetto with my pants falling off and i hate wearing loose shirts. I usually dress up (in the summer anyway) in nike or polo shirts with shorts. I don't do much with my hair though.</p>
<p>Really--there are a lot of good looking indian girls at psu? Since I got here, i have only seen one or two. Maybe I don't go to the right places.</p>
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Dude, how tall are you? I am 5'8" and the height thing does prevent me from being more confident around girls, especially since even the short girls seem to prefer tall guys nowdays. if you are tall, stick with women your own height so people like me have a chance please!
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<p>I am 5'11, which i think is ok for an Indian. But yeah, american girls like 6ft + guys.</p>
<p>Okay, my job is done here, at least for now. You're in great shape at a large state school. I went to one as an undergrad, and this was one of the not-talked-about advantages of being in a big school.</p>
<p>It's a big tumble out there. If you ask different girls out, you may find that one you hadn't expected to really like is the one you really do like. And Others you thought were the ones you wanted turn out not to be. Go for it.</p>
<p>Private message me if you want some more feedback.</p>
<p>So, now I'll get off my box for a second. I have a stupid question. I should probably be able to figure this out, since I claim to have figured out romance: how do you block quotes into the gray-shaded box?</p>
<p>Above all, have fun.</p>
<p>^^ use [ quote] at the beginning and [ /quote] at the end w/ out the spaces</p>
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Really--there are a lot of good looking indian girls at psu? Since I got here, i have only seen one or two. Maybe I don't go to the right places.
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Not many lol....and those that are aren't my type. I mean, i won't go out of my way or try to change myself for girls that are too different, albeit hot..</p>
<p>MightyNick: I am out of my league suggesting what you should wear. You need to do two things: check out some mens' style magazines. Okay, I know: it's not my style either to worry about this kind of stuff and for the longest time I thought people who got too dressed up (or down, as in gangstered or whatever) were kind of pretentious. Find two or three girls and if you don't want to disclose that you are going for an image "makeover" 'cause let's face it, it sounds dorky, just try to get a sense of what they like and maybe casually ask them to come by a store where you picked out a couple of shirts and want their advice on which. Going for an extreme style like "gangster" seems really pretentious -- and if you feel this way, it's not going to be for you either.</p>
<p>On the other hand, part of the point is that you make yourself stand out, even if only subtly, so don't be too cautious.</p>
<p>oh, that's all. thanks kctwister.</p>
<p>Bedhead...dude you're my savior! haha thanks man.</p>
<p>another problem here is that there are so many girls that are either, "in a relationship" with a guy in high school, or some other guy in college. Others are either dating already or recently broke up. And you never know who's in a relationship and who isn't. So that limits your pool.</p>
<p>nick, it depends on the guy's build...if he's just a couple inches taller than I am and he's twiggy, then probably I'm not physically attracted at all...a strong, well-built guy closer to my height is okay. If he's at least four inches taller and not overly skinny, then it's fine. I think it all goes back to that "man as protector" thing. In all reality, it's a big deal for me. I'm between 5'6 and 5'7 btw, though I prefer to round up to 5'7 :D</p>
<p>Any other questions, since I seem to be the only girl still following this vein of conversation? :p</p>
<p>Haha, this is hypothetical but just wondering.. would u go out with a 5'11 guy that is not well built/athletic but not skinny either! </p>
<p>I'm only trying this coz i dont' know you and this is a message board!!</p>
<p>Wow, Nick, we need to work on your misconceptions, my friend. No, you don't cross the bounds of good behavior, but don't constrict yourself too much either. A girl who you flirt with who's in a relationship this week may be the girl who just dumped her boyfriend and really likes you next week. I am not saying be a homewrecker, but learn the basic principle that flirting is ALWAYS a good idea. And fun too.</p>
<p>(I was joking tongue in cheek about your misconceptions; remember you are learning from MY mistakes).</p>
<p>nick, if we "click" and spending casual time together isn't awkward or effort-requiring (as in struggling to come up with stuff to talk about), and he is a good person, then absolutely yes! And, just so you know, the anonymity is exactly why I'm willing to follow this thread...not much is taboo for me, so far.</p>
<p>bedhead, you are quite right about the timing thing. </p>
<p>I just ended a "relationship" a week ago, but if some one had asked me out the day afterward, I'd have said yes. Granted, the guy I was with was probably the embodiment of my reasons for NOT dating a guy, so my heart definitely was not in it. Obviously, if the girl was really broken up about her last relationship, just back off for a bit...being a comfort to her is tricky business because the guy might just become her confidante and she would be afraid to lose the refuge he represents to a failed relationship with him. On the other hand, she might see him as someone who is always there for her and therefore an ideal person to take on the world with...I guess it really all depends on where she is in her life and whether she is still "playing" at relationships or actually looking for someone to be long-term.</p>
<p>MightyNick: Some of the stuff talked about here showed up in another thread. I joined it at the back.</p>
<p>MissMichelle: Thanks for following the thread. </p>
<p>TO ALL GUYS: To any guys who are following this thread, since she seems nice and willing to talk, I would recommend asking MM anything that's been on your mind about how women think. I probably should, but I can't think of any questions right now.</p>
<p>Usually when a girl's in a relationship or hangs out with a group of guys too much, it usually turns me off and I give up. </p>
<p>I think I'll wait a few years before I get serious about girls. I need a good job, and money to get good clothes :D haha....also right now my gpa is the most important thing and dont want any distractions. But that's the problem...girls are soo attractive that you feel you're missing out on something when hundreds of other college freshman have gf's/bfs.</p>
<p>uhhh Mighty... There is nothing wrong with that if that's what you want is to be a "75 year-old virgin" I just thought it was funny.</p>