<p>Well Columbia produced John Jay, first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, as well as Alexander Hamilton, who was just plain amazing. No need to compete for the title of having a President as an alumnus (not to belittle Obama's accomplishment at all) when you have John Jay and Alexander ****ing Hamilton as your alumni.</p>
<p>"No need to compete for the title of having a President as an alumnus (not to belittle Obama's accomplishment at all) when you have John Jay and Alexander ****ing Hamilton as your alumni."</p>
<p>Just putting it out there. Hamilton was rejected from Princeton because he did not pass the Latin exam. No hard feelings, Lions. =D</p>
<p>Well considering that the only Founding Father that Princeton produced was Madison, and considering how both Hamilton and Jay turned out, does that not prove the superiority of Columbia? Hamilton accomplished arguably more than Madison did, especially during the Washington years, and would have been president had he not been born off of US soil. Jay was the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, which speaks for itself.
I'm such a history geek 8-B</p>
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<p>Oh, Princeton clearly trumphs Columbia in this fight. Alexander ****ing Hamilton, you say? Aaron Burr (Princeton '1772) did a pretty good job of showing him who was boss :-o</p>
<p>One could argue that Hamilton setting up an independent banking system ended up more meaningful to the future of the country than James Madison's relatively insignificant presidency.</p>
<p>The Federalist Papers and his work before and during the Constitutional Convention, of course, weigh heavily in that decision, but...</p>
<p>...but hey, waittaminute, you're a Princeton guy, Location: Princeton NJ, coming in to a Columbia board to talk shlt about our new President who happens to be an alum of ours? Screw you, dude. If you can't say something nice, at least go say it in your own board.</p>
<p>"Screw you, dude. If you can't say something nice, at least go say it in your own board."</p>
<p>Grow up. </p>
<p>I didn't come here to talk s***. I never even mentioned Obama or badmouth Columbia in any way. </p>
<p>Perhaps you are uninformed about James Madison's accomplishments. He wrote the Constitution. He even led us in the War of 1812, which some call the second "War of Independence".</p>
<p>I came to this board, for the most part, to see how Columbians reacted to Obama's win.</p>
<p>Guys, chillax, it's just an online forum, and it was supposed to be all in good fun..or at least I intended my posts to be. I apologize if they came across otherwise, tone doesn't translate well over the internet.</p>
<p>Though I can't resist pointing out that James Madison did not WRITE the Constitution. While he may have been one of the biggest contributors, what he did was a far cry from actually writing it. Oh, yes, Madison getting us involved in that War of 1812? Which we would have lost to the British, had Napoleon not succeeded in distracting the British over in Europe?</p>
<p>I feel the need to add =P =P =P =P =P to emphasize that this is intended to be fun, not inflammatory.</p>
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<p>And we got involved in that Second World War... Which we may very well have lost to the Germans, had the Russians not succeeded in distracting the Germans over on the Eastern Front.</p>