<p>Is it bound to be 2100+ or is 2000+ acceptable?
I mean, the problem is CR and WR for non-native speakers, math is easy.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>i'd say 2200+</p>
<p>Depends where you apply. 2000/2100+ is definitely a good score for most colleges.</p>
<p>most colleges have statistics with sat averages, you should check those out</p>
<p>Yeah, but they don't have it for internationals...there's a difference, still...</p>
<p>It depends on the colleges....if you're looking at ivies or other equally selective colleges just 2000+ would not give you a fighting chance, i would say 2200+ should be your target</p>
<p>hey guys, when colleges count the sat score, do they count the composite ,which means add up the highest of every section from different tests?</p>
<p>many do...</p>
<p>i think it's really subjective, assuming int' have 250++ toefl,
Ivies probably 2200 and above
Top 50 probably 1800 and above
class of 2010,the girl from my place that enter P'ton has 2350
same class, my friend got into Northwestern with 1990
same class, Michigan-AA around 1900
So really quite subjective</p>
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<p>That's called SuperScoring, i don't think that many schools do so. Search with Superscoring in the SAT prep forum, there was thread there with lists of colleges that superscore.</p>
<p>I think it depends. If you're from UK, Canada, Singapore, Aus, NZ, or just any school where English is the language of teaching, shoot for 2200+. Otherwise, 2100+ may be quite good.</p>
<p>It really depends on the school, but if your country's first language isnt english (Uk, canada) 2000+ should be fine, considering you have amazing grades and solid EC's, but if your lacking in those you need better SaTs. I know foreign students that got into Georgetown, BC, ucla, upenn, with SAT scores that dont go over 2000, so its alright.</p>
<p>For elite universities I'd say 700+ on all sections, so at least 2100. I don't differentiate between domestic and international students in that regard. (I'm a Swedish citizen who learned English as a third language from scratch when I moved to the US at 12. I have a 2270 SAT with 800 on CR. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but I have limited sympathy for the "second language" excuse.)</p>
<p>Dude its different when you move to a different country, because then you're forced to learn that language as all of your communication is in that language (eng. in this case)
But if you're trying to learn a foreign lang. as a second/third language in your own country its harder.</p>
<p>There is no way you can compare this, cameliasinensis... Its a lot easier to learn a foreign language once your actually in that foreign country. English should be considered one of your mother tongues, so you don't really belong to the non-native-english pool.</p>
<p>Fair enough. I've heard that excuse from internationals who've lived in the US for longer than I have, so I'm probably just cynical. Either way, I certainly don't think that having learned English as a third language in middle school makes me a native speaker.</p>
<p>Being a non native speaker is when you learn all your school subjects mostly in another language ie russian or french or whatever, and english is taught in school only as a subject or no english class. Your high school gpa is counted by exams or tests administered in language other than english. I suppose that is what considered as non native speaker. ( like the native japs or chinese )</p>
<p>The definition of a native speaker is a person who has spoken a language since birth (as determined by family and upbringing). By your logic I am a native speaker not only of English but also of French and Swedish, but only Swedish actually qualifies; the other two are foreign languages to me, and one cannot by definition be a native speaker of a foreign language.</p>
<p>I already admitted to being harsh, and I'll concede that colleges' expectations may very well be lower for students coming from abroad, but international students living in the US can't (and shouldn't) reasonably expect to be cut any slack in that regard.</p>
<p>Very true, I think we have to distinguish between intels living in the US and "real" intels. Honestly, I think that not having high scores will hurt you even as a "real" intel, since there are so few places for us. Therefore, although the int. SAT average is probably lower than the US one, you should always bear in mind that you won't enjoy a 10% admit rate but only, say, 2% or maybe even less for some countries.</p>
<p>all depends on where u r applying, which country you are from and whats your admission pool category ..and whether or not u apply for financial aid</p>
<p>so an Indian Applying to stanford with financial aid as international students wud say 2250+ is a gud SAT score due to relative reasons.. and i wont be still surprised at the remark...</p>
<p>SM</p>