<p>"google the definition of tact"....thats how this whole thing started because people didn't know how to use google in the first place</p>
<p>No, the whole thing started because someone asked a question that another poster felt should have never been asked if you can "google it". The poster then proceeded to imply that asking the question on this board somehow meant that one was lazy because they didn't use google.
It had nothing to do with anyone not knowing how to do an internet search, but whether one should have.
Time to put this little discussion to bed.</p>
<p>yomtvraps, you might claim that Beast will be easy, but from everything you've said so far I'd have to disagree. If you go in already having "expectations," it's going to bite you in the ass. This guy is your future CLASSMATE and you're making corrections on him? That's pretty bad. All you're going to get for that here is disdain and hatred if you keep it up. No one hates anyone more than someone who doesn't help out his or her classmate, whether you think it's stupid or not. usmacadet2010 might be helping you out next year on your Chemistry and might think that your question is ridiculous, whether you looked it up in the book or not. So what if you thought his question was stupid? Was there really any need for a correction? Are you so far above him that you feel entitled to it? I hate to break it to you, but starting on R-Day, you two will both be exactly equal on the level of importance, ranking right about at dirt. Next time, why don't you just ignore it and drive on? If a frickin' FIRSTIE is willing to take his time to answer the question, who are you to judge this guy for asking? </p>
<p>Nothing makes me more angry than someone screwing over/calling out their classmate, or in this case, future classmate.</p>
<p>I'll get back to you in a few years on the whole beast thing.</p>
<p>This had nothing to do with my own personal satisfaction or non-existant ego other that in the 4 or 5 years it takes said person to get into the Army, I would like to see him/her to be self sufficient enough to look up a simple regulation that takes 20 seconds to find so they aren't stumbling over their bootlaces until someone else finds the answer for them. I've spent more time giving people individual help on things than I care to talk about, and I've taken my fair share of help as well. However, it tends to be on things that people only learn through experience. Even then, when there is an opportunity to, I try to get at least basic background info on what I'll be asking about. I'm not going to randomly ask an E-7 Ranger for help on tying down my TA50 if I haven't looked it up and tried already. If West Point is still teaching using the Thayer method, then there's some of this mindset going on there.</p>
<p>We're all on the same side here....can't we just get along:)?</p>
<p>beast should be hecka easy. i heard they have a talent show.</p>
<p>And you'll likely discover talents you never knew you had. ;)</p>
<p>"in the 4 or 5 years it takes said person to get into the Army, I would like to see him/her to be self sufficient enough to look up a simple regulation that takes 20 seconds to find so they aren't stumbling over their bootlaces until someone else finds the answer for them."</p>
<p>Most candidates garner appointments to West Point and other service academies straight out of high school. I would submit that most of these folks are pretty smart, in pretty good shape, and more than able to tie their bootlaces. West Point does still indeed use the Thayer method, but like most good institutions of higher learning, it does not operate in a vacuum and it is supplemented by a corps of cadets that supports its members through a spirit of teamwork and cooperation.</p>
<p>"I've spent more time giving people individual help on things than I care to talk about, and I've taken my fair share of help as well. However, it tends to be on things that people only learn through experience."</p>
<p>Wait till your academic year starts.</p>
<p>I think this one has gone just a little bit overboard. Both parties have valid points; yomtvraps is correct in asserting that there are things that can be found out easily with a little bit of work and there is something to be said for that. However, finding the cadet grade scale on the APFT is damn near impossible on the internet, so it was a good question. </p>
<p>In any event, no need to be arguing on the internet, it's a stupid waste of time. Use the forum for what it's meant for, getting information. I wish that I had access to something like this many moons ago when I was applying as the wealth of information you can get from each other and current cadets will really get you up to speed.</p>
<p>Go Army DPE push-up cutters (it's that time of the year...)</p>
<p>what is the thayer method?</p>
<p>Thayer Method: Pretty much you learn what your supposed to know on your own time, then you just go to class and ask questions about what you learned. Teaching yourself, then clarifying things with a teachers help. Thats the best i can think to explain it. If anyone else wants to add in be my guest.</p>