<p>Hello my guy friend really likes WL, and although he wont say it I know that he is worried about not getting into a Fraternity. I made an account for this website because I was hoping you all could give me some advice to pass onto him about fraternity rush. I see that there is a lot of stuff about sorority rush and not a lot of stuff about fraternity rush. What percentage of guys actually get cut if they are willing to pay all the dues?</p>
<p>Your guy will have NO problem finding and getting in a fraternity there. It’s not ike many state u’s with quotas for the greek organizations. There are ones to fit every possible personaity type from a little rowdy, to very quiet, to jocky, to alternative lifestyle, to patrician. It’s no issue and very relaxed, a buyers market in some aspects.</p>
<p>Thank you so much @puzzle78 for responding I emailed that to my friend!! I am under the impression that you are not a current student and although I am so grateful for your response I was wondering if any current students would comment. Also, my friend still wants to know if any guys actually don’t get a bid? Thanks so much everybody!!</p>
<p>No, I’m not a current student but went there and sent two children there fairly recently. I am pretty up to speed on what goes on and I have friends with children there now. Mine were not wildly social types but both got into the Greek organization of their choice, good ones. There are only a couple that might seem old school in the way they choose new members. It would be a very rare occurence for a guy not to get a bid, and there’s usually a reason, like behaving stupidly in front of upperclassmen/women and other typical first year mistakes. It is a buyer’s market for slots in the Greek houses so aside from a few of them, it is not a problem… even if they are socially a little awkward they will find a fraternity (or sorority).</p>
<p>I am a current student in a fraternity. Your friend should have no problem getting a bid. One of the great things about the fact that W&L is so greek is that there are fraternities that fit just about everybody. Rush is also a mutually selective process, it is just important that he pick up on that and not “suicide rush” only one fraternity – in that case, if he happens to not get a bid from them, he’s in trouble. From an upperclassman’s perspective, he should just attend fraternity events throughout the fall and find one or two that have brothers he likes spending time with, as he’ll be spending a lot of time with that group of people over the next three years. If they like him too, then he gets a bid. Formal Rush Week for guys is much less stressful than for girls, as you usually know going into it what to expect.</p>
<p>No one gets “cut” in W&L fraternities, as there is no quota. Most of the independents on campus are that by choice, and it’s very rare to not get a bid anywhere (many independents either didn’t rush or in some cases just didn’t like the fraternities they did get bids to).</p>
<p>As has been said, as long as he keeps an open mind and meets he won’t have a problem getting into a fraternity. There are 3 or 4 “top tier” fraternities that are more selective in who they take, but a person will only be happy where they truly fit in. Often times that means going to a different fraternity. If he finds the right group of guys, and makes sure he is getting on good terms with them, he shouldn’t have a problem.</p>
<p>The key is to not suicide rush.</p>
<p>Went to W&L, had my heart set on Sigma Chi, but I didn’t get a bid. I did get a bid from others and eventually pledged Sigma Nu. (this was a while back).</p>
<p>Best decision I ever made. </p>
<p>The above-posters are spot-on. Your friend will get bids. And he will join the right one.</p>
<p>There are many Frats but few sororities. . . . As the result the guys have it easy because there are so many Frats they usually have their pick. That is not the story for the girls. My daughter was crushed because she had always been very popular but was not picked by any of the better sororities. A number of the girls that are used to being very popular are very very sad when they find out they were not picked by any of the sororities they like. Greek life is very important at W&L so your social life can be destroyed in your Freshman year. Some of the girls even transfer to another college. My daughter has a nice boyfriend at W&L so she decided to stay but due to the sorority situation her social life is far from ideal. W&L is an outstanding university in every other area. She is very pleased with her academic choice but wishes she had a much better social environment.</p>
<p>parentconf, it sounds like your daughter needs to get out of the middle school/high school mentality of just absolutely having to be one of the “popular girls.” Maybe if she had looked past superficial traits and looked to things like sisterhood and philanthropy she would have had a more successful rush. You should also probably stop thinking of certain sororities as “better sororities,” because clearly your daughter has adopted this attitude as well, much to her detriment. What characteristics are you considering when ranking the “good” sororities? Percentage of people with matching cowboy boots and neon tank tops, or the closeness of the sisters’ bond and the commitment they have to bettering themselves and the school?
In EVERY sorority there are girls who had ranked another group as their top choice. I know this as a fact.</p>