<p>I see that many of us have multiple offers of admission to SPS, SMS, Groton, MDX and SGS</p>
<p>A compilation of any plus/minus issues/opinions with any of the above mentioned schools could be very helpful for many of us who are considering their offers of admission.</p>
<p>I guess there are enough about SMS in the second, third, and fouth pages of the forum.</p>
<p>Thanx...I'll check it out. How about the other schools?</p>
<p>All are great schools.
St. Paul's has beautiful campus and a strong humanities department
Groton again has a great campus and well-in my opinion- is strong everywhere =]
Middlesex is probably the weakest school you have hear, although it is a really great school! At Groton we call them the "wanna be Grotonians" ;-)
St. George's is BEAUTIFUL right on the water. It has gotten the rep of a party school but has great academics =]
SPS and Groton are the strongest academicly but are very different...Size wise and in other aspects</p>
<p>The party rep for SG or any of the above BS is misleading. The partygoers are short lived at any of the above. The kids that are at those schools want to be there and are smart enough not to throw it all away.</p>
<p>Not for nothing, but the correct euphanism is St. Grottlesex...</p>
<p>Middlesex is probably the weakest school you have hear, although it is a really great school! At Groton we call them the "wanna be Grotonians" ;-)</p>
<p>I disagree. A few years ago, I think this statement would be the case, but they're really improving now. The difference is really in emphasis anyways. f you took an average of sports and academics, they'd be just as good as a lot of schools that only care about academics.</p>
<p>actually, middlesex is middle of the road amongst these 5 schools academically...SPS and Groton are a little bit better, but as far as acceptance rate, average SSAT scores, average SAT scores, and College matriculation goes, middlesex is clearly better than St. Marks and St. Georges</p>
<p>Those data varies year to year. LAst year middlesex average ssat was about same and SMS and a nit higher than than SGS. SMS college matriculation is
upward trend whil Middlesex college matriculation is downward. It is hard to say which is better than which. SMS has a big plan to renovate the whole
building. Once the renovation is complete, that schooll will be a rising start soon with the new school head who is a very active person. You have to pick a school based on your own favorite and your own future.</p>
<p>Unless you are getting some sort of insider information about SGS's ssat scores, then MX's are still 3 points higher (not that it really makes a difference, but still they are higher). </p>
<p>Also, i dont really see how you can say SMS's matriculation is on the rise, while MX's is on a downward path, for you said yourself that things change from year to year, just as what kids apply to schools from a grade change (for example one grade may be stronger than another). And, even if MX's matriculation is on a downward path, and SMS's is on the rise, SMS still has much work to do because MX still holds a far superior matriculation list.</p>
<p>Yankee, I like you :) Are you planning on attending MX or just being honest for honesty's sake?</p>
<p>Yankees, You don't get my point. What I am saying is that it is hard to say one is betther than the other. of course, I agree that St. Paul and Groton are the better than other St. Grottlrsex in terms of academic. However, I do not like Gronton's dorm. Except SPS and Groton, I do not see any clear
punch that can claim MX is better than others. As you say, one school may be better than others if you compare with a particular snapshot. MS, SMS, and SGS are more or less same. Maybe it does not make any sense to try to compare and come up with a definire answer. The conclusion will be very subjective because it will be very very difficlut to have a unanimous decision. I just wish everybody a good luck for their decision. Even if you go to a better school, that does not guarantee a success in making a good college. We can see many examples. For example, some students even in average public high school can go to excellent schools. My dad and middle school teacher said that the good students in public high school might have better chances to go to excellent colleges than BS students. I do not want to trust that since I like to go to BS. But I hope that that is not true because I am going to BS.</p>
<p>first of all, the only reason i responded to this in the first place is because it was mentioned that, "Middlesex is probably the weakest school you have hear." So obviously i dont feel that schools can be ranked perfectly if i responded to that. Just as you think "St. Paul and Groton are the better than other St. Grottlrsex in terms of academic", i feel that MX is better than SMS and SGS academically. Its not as if it is a super close call, ive done my research and presented you with facts as to why MX is better academically, only to have you try and call me out by falsely saying that middlesex's ssat scores are "nit higher than than SGS." Im not going to waste my time here handing you pure, and overwhelming, facts in key areas of what makes a school good academically, but rather i am going to suggest that you do a little research</p>
<p>i have to agree with yankees here, erkybk. while sms and sgs are great schools, it is fairly obvious that they are on lower tiers than mx is in terms of academics. whatever criteria you want to look at, middlesex seems to come out on top. mx's top three enrolled colleges are: harvard, brown, and tufts. compared to sms: bc, colby, and hamilton and sgs: hamilton, vanderbilt, and colby. sms has a 38% acceptance rate...i heard from an applicant that mx denied that they have only 100 spots for 1000 applicants this year. i could go on forever, but mx is known to be the superior school undoubtedly.</p>
<p>MX's acceptance rate this year was 10.8%</p>
<p>If nothing else, it's on the rise.</p>
<p>risingjunior, im not sure where you got that number but it doesnt seem to take into account the yield factor. middlesex cannot expect every student it accepts to enrol. so even if mx expects 1/2 of the accepted students to actually enroll, then their acceptance rate would be 20%. (200 accepted students for the 100 slots.)</p>
<p>Well I got a letter saying they accepted 100 people out or 925. Or maybe it said to fill 100 slots? Hm...I didn't take that into account. Thanks!</p>
<p>SMS accepted more than 200 this year because their final acceptance is below 50% most of the time. My parents called and find that out. I am admitted to both MX and SMS. I do not know where to go. My parents advise me to go to SMS since they think I will have more chance to succeed and will be recognized there than MX. This year, SMS said they received
about 700 applications and accaptance rate is about 24%. Obviously they accepted more last year. They said that they accepted more than usual last year because the application increased quite a bit suddenly and they did not expect more than 50% final decision after revisit, but more than 50% of the students who received the acceptance letter enrolled. Because of that they had to accept a lot less this year. I am not supporting either school. But If MX students go to those excellent colleges, that does not mean all of the students go to those schools. you have to look at how the overall students go to college. If the average or bottom students go to not good colleges, the whole point "academically better" does not make any sense. Let's suppose that good students at MX go to excellent schools more than SMS and SGS, then we have to consider how many students cannot make those good colleges and go to not very good schools. If MX students go to those not good college more than SMS and SGS students, MS's the number of students who go to the excellent schools cannot convince people that MX is better than SMS and SGS academically. I heard the good students at MX, SMS, and SGS are probably equally good enough. Then the question is which school has more those good students and which school has more average students. Unless it is a clear comparison like SPS or Groton vs SGS, there is going to be an argument like this because it becomes subjective view and the data will vary time to time. Some students in SMS are better than some students in MX. That is for sure! Of course some students in MX.
ate better than some students in SMS. We cannot generailze the quality of the schools based on a small set of data, especially with a snapshot data set.</p>
<p>I like to add one more thing. You will get kicked out of this! smile...
One daughter of my parents friends' applied to both SMS and MX like me.
I am in both of the schools.</p>
<p>She was admitted to MX but rejected by SMS. What does that mean?
That makes my parents like SMS better than MX. My ssat was 97% and hers are 89%. </p>
<p>I am waitlisted on Hotchkiss, Choate, Groton. But I don't think I can count on the waitlist. I am hearing different and mixed opinion about MX and SMS from people, and I really don't know where to go. But college matriculation data is not a good measure for school unless you take a look at the whole students college entrance data. </p>
<p>Last year, SMS ssat average was 83% and MS average was 85%. I think it is basically the same. If you meaure this years SSat average, it may be reversed. Who knows?</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments anyway. But let's be careful about the school comparison. You can have your own opinion, but you and I'd better be careful.</p>
<p>To be honest I think you guys all blew my comment out of proportion!!!!
When I said MX was the weakest I was stating an opinion that MX is a more relaxed school, I tried to emphasize that I thought the academics where great everywhere- which they are!
also my comment about SGS having a party school rep. well I guess it is hard to interpret writing sometimes but I was meaning to say "don't listen to this, because it is a great school!"</p>
<p>When you look at all of these schools you really can't compare, they are all WONDERFUL schools and when it comes down to it if you are accepted you will do wonderful. No matter which St. Grottlesex you end up at rest asured that you will do well in life</p>