My son is admitted. OOS. I am also concerned about guns in campus. (Wish this was not something that needs consideration to decide). However not sure whether I should be so concerned to turn down this acceptance?
Does anyone know if guns are / will beallowed in the dorms? Class rooms? Libraries of Georgia Tech?
I wonder that too @Mom2Move !
@CA1543, is anyone in your family going in or planning to go to Gtech this fall (for 2016 - 2017)?
Lol stop being so scared. I guarantee that this only effects like <5% of students. Plus, if you are so scared, just get a gun yourself.
Atlanta is dangerousā¦ itās trap centralā¦ embrace the culture, if you stay in the Gatech bubble the whole time youāll miss out on all the cool stuff Atl has to offer.
Imo there is much to be concerned about. georgia has pretty lax gun laws with no requirement for training to get a permit to conceal and carry. I donāt believe anyone is allowed to ask you if you have a permit if they should happen to see your gun. And the stand your ground laws in Georgia have been strengthened as well. Students who go to school where there is campus carry describe a higher level of anxiety (not the ones who are carrying) and professors complain of brain drain and chilled freedom of speech in the classroom. How sad that our kids have to attend college in this environment. My out of state child, who was accepted EA, will not be attending.
The new Georgia law will allow only students age 21 and up to carry guns, just as we do here in Colorado. Also, the law in Georgia specifically excludes carrying guns into GT football games, other sporting events, dorms, frats or sororities. The Governor of Georgia has NOT signed it into law yet. There is considerable political pressure for him NOT to sign it from U of Georgia students for instance.
We have data on this type of law:
Colorado, Texas and many other states allow guns on college campuses with no increase in crime. Colorado has allowed guns for more than ten years now on our public campuses even in Boulder. Other states like Illinois or California ban guns on campus but crime is very high in those states. Clearly gun laws do not control crime rates, law enforcement does. Thus, Boston has the Boston Bombers, who maimed and killed many college students, some bad neighborhoods in Chicago near Illinois Institute of Tech and U of Chicago
have high gun deaths, New Orleans and Tulane U neighborhoods has very high violent crime because the law enforcement is less effective than Georgia cops I would assume.
Atlanta has crime, but they also have an effective police force and good record of keeping GT safe.
It is true there is no increase in crime in Colorado and Utah. However the law hasnāt begun in Texas or Kansas so we donāt know effects yet. Also there has been no decrease of crime either. Crime on campuses are generally very low so questions remain as to motivation for enacting the law, and legislators vote along party lines.
Just a quick update. We were at GT on Monday for an admitted student visit and one of the parents asked our tour guide. She stated that GTās pres and board did not agree with the law and plans to continue GTās policy of no guns on campus.
Good. Havenāt heard if the bill is still sitting on the governorās desk. Hope it accidentally falls in the trashcan.
@PhilaSkiMom haha that was probably me that youāre referring to. Yes Iām the crazy anti gun lady that has to admit that I really did love the campus. Letās all hope governor Deal does the right thing.
We can dream, but it sounds like he is going to pass that stupid bill
Can Tech, a public school, refuse to comply?
Not if the bill is passed.
Thatās what Iād think, but post #47 implies that the board would defy the bill. I hope so!
Interesting debate. The school I go to (see my avatar) is gearing up to allow guns on campus (not in the buildings, though.)
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article37900224.html
Iām not a gun owner, but I have no problem with it if they do go through with it. I doubt many people really will carry, but if some of them do (I suspect a couple of my friends would like to) I doubt it will make much impact. People that would start a school shooting would have done so regardless of the law, I think thatās been pretty well proven. What I would like is if it was legal to carry a knife on campus (the size Iām used to carrying while hiking.) That would make me feel safer.
@jym626 Defying the bill would probably bring a bunch of open carry extremists to campus.
I wonder if the Governor would allow firearms at his inauguration. You know, to make it āsaferā. I am guessing not. But our kids lecture halls will beāsaferā.
I am also concerned about the fact that some faculty members may quit due to controversy and danger if the bill gets passed which may really harm GTās prestige.
And can even GT administration defy the bill? Doesnāt GT, as a public school, have to comply?
Itās not easy for faculty to leave especially those with tenure, extensive labs and grants, plus grad students they are doing research with.
Is the Governor likely to sign this, I think he may not sign it. I heard the deadline was in May. @dcplanner I agree that very few faculty will leave. Only a few have that option, the very top tenured faculty, can always get offers at other universities.
Tenure track professors at any top engineering college, are on an 8 year journey and only once they win tenure can they apply for another tenured position elsewhere, and usually need 15 years in at first university to get an offer elsewhere. Usually professors move because of spouse jobs anymore or a chaired position late in their careers, like over age 50. Professors and academic career people are very career oriented, and probably paying no attention to this gun bill. Some may own guns themselves and feel its OK, there are a variety of opinions out there.
One GT female faculty is an anti gun activist and writing extensively against this bill. I agree with her, better for the Governor not to sign it.
Even a āgun happyā state like Florida does not allow concealed carry on their public campuses. They have lots of regular citizens carrying guns though, down there, who can wander onto their huge campuses accidentally I bet though, although most gun carriers are very aware of the laws and abide by them.
The Georgia Governor, Nathan Deal is likely to veto the bill, in my opinion. Here is his opinion, a month old, he seems likely to ban guns in the day care centers on campuses, at least. He seems negative on this bill. As parents of future GT students, we can all write to him, still have time to convince him!
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/03/26/if-nathan-deal-vetoes-campus-carry-bill-it-will-be-because-of-this/