<p>I'm enrolled in an Indiana CC and will complete 31 credits by the end of spring.
Let's say, I'm moving to California and complete 33 credits in CCC while establishing California residency for tuition purposes with the intent to stay there (true).
So when I apply to UC Berkeley and UCLA, will I be considered and OOS student because slightly less than half of my courses are from out-of-state, and will I pay an OOS tuition for UC?
I read that residency is determined after the acceptance (must submit once accepted: Statement of Legal Residence). So this is the question of priority and tuition.</p>
<p>I did a similar thing, I moved here from Maryland in late June, took a summer class at a CC, then did 3 quarters here. My parents moved to California a year before I did, I’m not sure how that affected things. I had to pay out of state tuition at my CC, though. I was able to apply for TAG at UCSC, that was my safety school (Cal and UCLA don’t have TAG, iirc). I’m now at Berkeley with instate tuition, from what I remember residency wasn’t decided until after submitting a SIR. My GPA wasn’t amazing, so I think I was evaluated as a California CC student.</p>
<p>Double check the dates, I remember I was pretty close to one of the deadlines for residency. Otherwise yes, it’s definitely possible.</p>
<p>So did you take first 2 semesters at Maryland CC?
If I move, it will be June, and I will take summer classes, then the fall semester and spring semester classes.
I’m sure the fact that your parents moved to California played a big role in determining your residency.
The priority is important, so did they consider your an in-state students when you applied in January for transfer?</p>
<p>There is no real priority during admission. If you have the exact same stats from a OOS CC compared to a California CC (CCC) you shouldn’t be any less likely to be admitted. CCC just work together with the UCs and have resources that aren’t available to OOS students like TAG/TAP programs, articulation agreements, etc. that make it easier for in-state students to transfer. </p>
<p>What you need to do is call admissions for the UCs you want to transfer to and make sure the courses you’ve taken at your OOS CC are transferable and fulfill the requirements you need. The main reason why OOS students have lower admit rates is because typically some of their units won’t transfer and it puts them at a disadvantage. </p>
<p>Also, for most of the UCs it seems that if you’ve taken your last 30 semester units at a CCC then you’re considered a CCC student. I don’t think there’s a stated policy, but for many of the TAG agreements if you’ve attended a four year or OOS university you have to take your last 30 units at a CCC to be eligible.</p>
<p>They do take residency into consideration just the same as they look to see if your a first generation college student. Check the common data set for more information or look at the transfer matrix for each school.</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure they don’t take any of those things into consideration for admission. Those are more for scholarship consideration and demographics than admission.</p>
<p>As far as I know I’ve never heard of there being any quotas that they take x% of residents and x% of non-residents or x% of first generation students. They ask specific things for on the UC app for scholarships, financial aid, demographics etc that doesn’t factor into their decision. Really they’re just looking at your pre-req completion, GPA, IGETC/breadth, ECs, Essays, etc.</p>
<p>CCC gets first priority even over OOS CC</p>
<p>[Major</a> Features of the California Master Plan for Higher Education](<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/acadinit/mastplan/mpsummary.htm]Major”>Major Features of the California Master Plan for Higher Education)</p>
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<p>So they basically require 40:60 overall from any CC but CCC have first priority. </p>
<p>The entire reason the master plan was implemented was to educate Californians. Californians will always get first priority starting with CCC.</p>
<p>I stand corrected, I guess there is a quota. From that statement I’m assuming that the 20% difference is supposed to be for transfers, which is still vague. Is that 20% over the whole system CSU/UC system? Is it for both systems independently? Or is it independent for each university (I’m pretty sure it’s not)? I’m still not completely sure how they give “priority” to CCC students. I always thought that’s what the articulation agreements/TAG programs were for. I still haven’t heard of a quantitative priority, where they set enrollment quotas or somehow weigh OOS vs CCC stats. Perhaps there are separate cutoff GPAs?</p>
<p>I think it’s 40:60 for CSU and UC overall. But I have no idea how they do it or if they use a quota. The UCs are pretty tight lipped about their admissions process.</p>
<p>If I had to absolutely guess, I think the UCs probably use some kind of hidden quota that they will never admit to. I only say that because there seems to be a few low GPA applicants that sneak into impacted programs each year from CCC. Maybe they want a little diversity from other states but I don’t know.</p>
<p>dilapidatedmind, that is a different prospective I’ve not heard of (about the priority)!
I’ll definitely call the UCB admission to know what courses might transfer. </p>
<p>Also, on residency for tuition purposes file they say “after you have been admitted to the UC, a campus Residency Deputy will determine whether you are a California resident for purposes of tuition and fees”.
At the end of April transfer admission decisions are posted, so it means that a student has to satisfy all the residency for tuition purposes criteria by the end of APRIL in order to pay an in-state tuition?
If this student satisfies the criteria by July, then he or she will have to pay an OOS tuition for the fall semester and an in-state tuition for the spring semester, or an OOS for the whole year and then an in-state tuition for the senior year?</p>
<p>Most UCs will classify an applicant who has attended a CCC for two regular terms (that excludes Winter and Summer) prior to transfer as a “CCC applicant” with priority for admission consideration. This is a **guideline **and not a rule; as of the 2011 UC Counselor Conference, the UCs do not yet have an official rule in place on how priority is granted.</p>
<p>Whee, following up. Should probably stop posting here at 1am. :P</p>
<p>Yes, I did two semesters at a Maryland CC, then summer and 3 quarters at a Calfornia CC. Then transferred here.</p>
<p>Parents moving may play some role in residency, but a majority of it, as far as I could tell, related more to the student. Read this if you’re super worried, should give you some idea of whether or not you’ll qualify as a resident: <a href=“UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP”>UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP;
If you move here, get a california license/ID, attend CC for a year, etc, you should be able to get in state tuition.</p>
<p>Also, they don’t tell you whether you’re being considered as instate/CCC/OOS when you apply for admission (which is in NOVEMBER, not January!), but if you’re attending CC for a year here you should be counted as a CCC student.</p>
<p>failure622, I read it and no good news 
It says:
“You may be considered “financially independent” if you are a single undergraduate student who was not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the TWO tax years immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification, and you can demonstrate self-sufficiency for those years and the current year”
So it means that if I want to transfer for 2014-2015 academic year, then I have to be financially independent for 2013 AND 2012…
Thus, “attend CCC for a year” won’t work</p>
<p>But what if I transfer to Cal for 2015-2016 academic year and be financially independent in California from summer of 2013 prior to admission, then it is not enough? Does it have to be the whole 2013 year, not excluding spring semester?
Also, I am a permanent resident in the United States; it does not help…</p>
<p>I’m just worried now, because as a transfer student, it seems like either I’m going to a private school that likes OOS transfers (40K per year, privates do not give much aid, especially with my family income of 100K per year I have no connection to) OR to an OOS public university (Berkeley - 30K per year, I’m sure, with NO aid for me). In-state schools are not an option…
It is possible to have a high priority and transfer from CCC to Cal, but then having a debt of 60K for the undergraduate degree…</p>
<p>So do you guys think that spending one more year establishing financial independence before transfer is reasonable? (of course if they are OK with it starting in June of 2013, not the beginning of the year)
Cal is my dream school; I’m so in love with it, but…</p>
<p>failure622, wow, that is an early deadline! :O</p>
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<p>Just out of curiosity, my current status is not 50:50 for OOS credits and CCC credits.</p>
<p>More like, 2 semesters at a CCC and came back to my home state for family reasons.</p>
<p>I just started my first quarter at a WA State CC and probably will have to finish my general education requirements until I transfer back to California (aiming for UCLA).</p>
<p>How do you think I will be “looked at” ? for having partial CCC credits? Am I still going to be considered 100% OOS ?</p>
<p>@littlesooyon92, it’s not a percentage split. You need to be enrolled at CCC for two regular terms just prior to transferring to the UCs. So if you are at an OOS CC now, you are not a CCC transfer even if you completed majority of your units at a CCC before you went to the OOS CC.</p>