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<p>There's geometry and algebra, which are typically high school subjects.</p>
<p>I read about this as well. :) Well, as I understand it, he also applied to Stanford, Yale etc., so I imagine that he will get into one of those. </p>
<p>He's cute and seems like a sweet guy. (Donating $25,000? Phew)</p>
<p>you're on crack ^^^^^</p>
<p>lol... hahahaha</p>
<p>I'm sure he'll get in to a good univserity anyway.......</p>
<p>BUT for all the Harvard Deferrees (?) or rejects, this shows that Harvard isn't just just looking for hooks...</p>
<p>who here thinks baby Sugaree67 is a actually an adcom of harvard? her tone of voice seems like she is a regular student trying to act like an adcom.....look at this topic... look at her tone of speaking... in one of her replies, she refers to students as dummies... this is not a manner of an adcom of harvard... are you kidding me?.... harvard adcoms dont come to these forums especiall there are millions of these... go to this topic <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=147832&page=2%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=147832&page=2</a></p>
<p>One thing I disagree with outright.</p>
<p>1400 SAT IS NOT!!!!!!!!! low. That is in the top 5% of the nation atleast.</p>
<p>Also, SAT doesn't mean a damn thing. The fact that he was an olympian and pretty damn smart should've have gotten him in, as long as he wasn't bottom of his class. If it is about work ethic, exercising 3+ hrs a day is more than the best students do in terms of studying.</p>
<p>Low SAT's don't mean you cannot excel in college.</p>
<p>My uncle got a 1330 in 1975 and went to Princeton (hispanic from south texas since some of you find that low score to make it impossible to get in). He was VALEDICTORIAN of his class--remember it is princeton. I'm certain there were others with better SAT scores, yet he outdid them all.</p>
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<p>I agree that 1400 is not low, but it is low for the top 10-15 elite colleges. Also, I agree that the SAT's are not a good predictor of success in college. The comments about being a valedictorian doesn't mean that much since there are 50% more valedictorianas in US than there are slots open in the top 15 colleges.</p>
<p>I meant valedictorian of his princeton class.</p>
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<p>Cost of attendence: $5 donation to charity</p>
<p>$40 per ticket...I wonder how much the Deans are getting for their time. I wonder where they're being put up. I wonder what lovely restaurant they'll be visiting before the program.
Posted in the "All the Ivy League Deans in One Place" thread. Clearly not Ivy.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>i heard rivers was going back to harvard. that alone made me want to apply (almost). he's absolutely my favorite musician EVER!<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>Rivers Cuomo is almost finished. I think this is his last semester at Harvard.</p>
<p>USAToday quotes Cheeks as saying:</p>
<p>" I'm excited to get back into scholastics and see what I can do, Cheek says. I didn't work hard enough (in high school), so now I get a second chance.'</p>
<p>It sounds like he probably put up an undistinguished high school record and/or had motivation problems, which may well have been a factor in not getting into Harvard.</p>
<p>You know, many cool people apply to Harvard, and don't get in. Many awesome people do well and better at other places. What's the argument? "Oh, he's a swell guy. Harvard admissions officers must've been on crack to reject him." What?</p>
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<p>I haven't been following the thread or anything, but just a note. The SAT in 1975 is not the SAT today, or the SAT when Joey Cheeks was rejected from Harvard. Back then, I believe a 1400 qualified you for Mensa membership. The recentering in ... 1994 (?) made it easier to get higher scores. A 1330 in 1975 is commendable.</p>
<p>They didn't just recenter it to make it easier to score higher, but to conform to the bell curve.</p>
<p>I am not at all going to comment on Harvard's admissions officers, because quite frankly they do have a difficult job sorting out a tremendous number of applications from qualified people. Do I know why he got rejected? No idea.</p>
<p>But I will say this. To be a GOLD MEDALIST in the OLYMPICS and still be able to score above a 1400 on the SAT in the midst of all of the training and preparation he obviously had to do is unbelievable. Athletes of his caliber have to train the majority of the day, and for a sport like speedskating, he might have had to go away from home. This is not comparable to any athletes that any of us know in our schools. For Joey Cheek to excel in academics while en route to winning a gold medal is a far superior accomplishment to a kid who just studies all day and has one talent.</p>
<p>First of all, he WAS NOT a gold medalist at the time he applied. He graduated from HS long time ago. In other words, all he was doing in the last EIGHT YEARS was speedskating and PROBABLY NOTHING else. If that's the case, he had a lot of free time instead of a hectic tight schedule some of you were imagining and a schedule like this looks very weak compared to other typical Harvard applicants. I'd expect your reading skill is better at 26 than when you are 16? Who knows if he had good grades or took rigourous courses in HS? Someone here said athletes aren't rich usually; well, skating is one of the most expensive sports. His family may be pretty wealthy and 25K is probably not all that much to him.</p>
<p>"First of all, he WAS NOT a gold medalist at the time he applied. He graduated from HS long time ago. In other words, all he was doing in the last EIGHT YEARS was speedskating and PROBABLY NOTHING else."</p>
<p>You're right he wasn't a gold medalist, but he did win National and I believe World titles, that is pretty awesome to me!!!
Secondly, his family isn't rich. Many olympic athletes are quite middle class/ poor and their families have to make a lot of sacrifices for them to train. Not every olympic sport gets coverage like ice skating, and not everyone has the endorsement deals of michelle kwan (who despite not even competing at the olympics, just signed a deal with disney $$$). Cheek said in an interview that he is not a wealthy man, perhaps he gave up the money cuz he was big hearted. (Apolo Ohno, short tracker, moved away from home at a young age to live by himself at the olympic training grounds where he trains for free, but doesn't get any money. After winning the olympics he was in a prime position to get endorsements, but couldn't because of the olympic committees restrictions)
Lastly, he was speed skating, but that doesn't mean he wasn't reading or doing other studies. This doesn't mean he just skated. He still deserves to go to Harvard in my opinion.</p>
<p>Look at coureur's post. He didn't do well in high school. Period. Harvard has enough world class athlete's without letting in those that struggled in high school. Sure he has academic potential, but so what? Harvard doesn't have the same approach to recruited athletes as other schools; they still have high standards for athletes, even if people whine that those athletes wouldn't have gotten in without recruiting boosts.</p>
<p>RCMan13, essentially you are saying that it is amazing that a Gold Medalist can score well on a 4 hr test. It no way reflects that he excelled in academics en route to winning a gold medal; he did well on a test and won the gold medal - that's it. I find it irrational that someone ought to be assured admittance because of a Gold Medal. I believe Harvard waives superlative academics in favor of athletes, but they don't abandon them entirely. If they don't think he'd be capable of graduating, he shouldn't be admitted.</p>
<p>Vanilea, I think it is unfair to assume that his family is not wealthy because "many olympic athletes are quite middle class" and "Cheeck said in an interview that he is not a wealthy man." Furthermore, I think people are making too big of a deal about the money he is donating - in fact, if he is getting all this publicity for it, that may very well justify his actions. I am not saying he's not big hearted, but I think it is blind to assume so. Furthermore, bigheartedness doesn't justify acceptance to Harvard - there are too many that share that spirit.</p>
<p>He may have been worthy of attending Harvard, but to be honest without knowing his grades it seems impossible to explain his admissions decision. I think he would be admitted to colleges that are less conscious of academics when it comes to their athletes - such as Stanford - but the academic bar is still high for athletes at Harvard and a 1400 SAT does not compensate for poor academics. The bottom line is - did the Harvard admissions committee think Joey Cheeks was capable of graduating? The answer is no. Otherwise, they would have accepted him in a heartbeat even if they didn't expect him to be at the top of his class.</p>
<p>Go to this site...it's a recent news report that says following his victory, several alumnis emailed him offering to do what they can! I bet the alumnis who got his email address, aren't your typical grads. More than likely, Joey Cheek will get into harvard now.
<a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/oly/3666181.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/oly/3666181.html</a></p>
<p>P.S: He got a 2250 on the new SAT, that's very nice. The reason the article stated that harvard rejected him was that 10 years our of school was a bit too risky.</p>
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<p>This article is so biased, and this author so removed from the reality of college admissions, it's not funny. I'm surprised alums are offering to do what they can, and honestly, it would be a debilitating compromise for Harvard if they accepted him after having rejected him. What of the independence and sovereignty of the Admissions Committee? What of the potential student whose place he would take, whose place he would not have taken had "not typical grads" pulled for him? </p>
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"I'm not bitter about it," he said. "I understand there are 22,000 applicants, only 1,600 got in, and 40 percent of those are legacies (children of graduates) whose mom or dad maybe donated a building."
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<p>He sounds bitter to me. The 40% doesn't sound right - and certainly 40% of every year's admit pool does not have parents who donated buildings to Harvard. So I'd have to say, he sounds pretty bitter. </p>
<p>No offense to Joey Cheek, but the Harvard adcom made their decision. There can be no going back on this.</p>