<p>Any numbers for Williams or Swarthmore?</p>
<p>I see this way. Preference ratio = marticulants/admits.
For example,</p>
<p>H : 18/21 = 86 %
MIT : 9/11 = 82 %</p>
<p>Other schools? all hovers about or less than 50 %</p>
<p>Go Big Blue!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Penn seems to have become a lot more popular as of late.</p>
<p>Did it ever occur to the poster that Yale admits not nearly as many students as Harvard, in addition to having a slightly lower acceptance rate? This might have something to do with those numbers on the Y vs H.</p>
<p>EDIT: I just read this portion:</p>
<p>Harvard: 94/21/18</p>
<p>Yale: 87/17/8 (8? On Byerly's original post it showed 13 matriculating to Yale)</p>
<p>To be fair, Harvard seems to be preferred on the cross-admit battle; however, notice how Yale admits fewer than Harvard does and yet about the same amount applied to each school.</p>
<p>I'm not clear on what you mean--Is it that you are saying that maybe Yale's yield is lower because it's a smaller school?</p>
<p>If so, I think you're missing the fact that this is all proportionate. That's how we are able to compare these numbers...</p>
<p>If not, then I am not sure what you mean.</p>
<p>Nope. Not yield, this is merely having an accepted spot in the class. I admit that Harvard's yield is going to be higher in this case. My point is that Yale was a more selective school for Andover students this year. Heck, look at Princeton too.</p>
<p>Oh, okay. That's fair, and it's very plausible. It could also be that there was a higher number of top Andover students applying to Harvard than the number of top Andover students applying to Yale--thereby more Andover students would have success in acceptance to Harvard than those in acceptance to Yale. For example, if a whole bunch of Andover students applied to Harvard early and got in, many of them would then have no reason to apply to Yale. Therefore the pool applying to Yale (say, regular decision) might be a weaker pool (possibly deferred from Harvard or maybe just didn't apply early anywhere).</p>
<p>This is just one theory--I'm not bashing yours. I just thought I would defend my school. :- )</p>
<p>You can defend yours too. Have fun at Yale next year.</p>
<p>I'm not sure which, if any, of those "theories" hold water. </p>
<p>As best I can tell, the difference between the original estimate of 13 matriculating to Yale and the final number of 8 consists of people admitted SCEA who later changed their mind and matriculated at Harvard or elsewhere.</p>
<p>In contrast to last year, Yale seems to have admitted an as yet undetermined number of people from the waitlist for the Class of 2010.</p>
<p>It's a different world out there. 90 apps to Harvard? I think my school might have had 5 (graduating class of 450)...</p>
<p>Milton 2006, graduating class of 178, as of 6/9. Source: The Milton Measure</p>
<p>11 Brown
9 Penn
8 Harvard
7 Yale
6 Wesleyan
5 Columbia
5 Tufts
4 Cornell
4 Georgetown
4 Trinity
4 Vanderbilt
4 Oberlin
4 BC
4 BU
3 MIT
3 Amherst
3 Bowdoin
3 Middlebury
2 NYU
2 CMellon
2 Duke
2 Emory
2 Wellesley
1 Princeton
1 Northwestern
1 Pomona
1 Dartmouth
1 Reed
1 Rice
1 Vassar
0 Stanford
0 Williams
0 Swarthmore
0 Carleton</p>
<p>Seems to me the best objective measure of the "quality" of a high school is the quality its college matric list.</p>
<p>Hopkins, in New Haven, has a terrific matric record (haven't been able to find it yet. Anybody got it?).</p>
<p>Milton Academy -- half day/half boarding -- may have the best matric record (in terms of % going on to the top 15-20 most selective nat. universities and the top 15-20 most selective LACs) of any high school in the country with 50+ graduates.</p>
<p>Milton partial matriculation list, class of 2006, 178 graduates, as of 6/9/2006. Source: The Milton Measure</p>
<p>11 Brown
9 Penn
8 Harvard
7 Yale
6 Wesleyan
5 Columbia
5 Tufts
4 Cornell
4 Georgetown
4 Trinity
4 Vanderbilt
4 Oberlin
4 BC
3 MIT
3 Amherst
3 Bowdoin
3 Middlebury
2 NYU
2 CMellon
2 Duke
2 Emory
2 Wellesley
1 Princeton
1 Northwestern
1 JH
1 Pomona
1 Dartmouth
1 Reed
1 Rice
1 Vassar</p>
<p>Most of these schools are top 20 or close. The total -- likely to improve some with summer melt -- approaches 60% of the graduating class. And I'm sure I forgot to include some other colleges that should also be on this list as well. Does any high school in the country beat this?</p>
<p>It is often hard to compare schools of different sizes, but Milton is roughly 2/3 the size of Andover, and had 51 matriculants to the Ivies + MIT, Stanford and Duke. Andover had 94 matriculants to this group. Exeter sent 76 to "the Ivies + 3".</p>
<p>Obviously there are other excellent colleges, too - and Andover, Exeter, Milton, Roxbury Latin, St. Paul's, Deerfield etc. graduates do very well, even in today's competitive environment.</p>
<p>Sorry for the duplication. I meant to post the Milton list in a different thread. </p>
<p>For Byerly re Andover: Only 270 grads each year (50% more than Milton)? I thought Andover had more like 325 seniors.... Or is that Exeter? Ah, well, all these schools have great college-placement records, in any case.</p>
<p>314 seniors.</p>
<p>But that included a number of the 18 "guest students" in re Hurricane Katrina. There were 297 college matriculants in the Class of 2006.</p>
<p>SEE: <a href="http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/facts.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/facts.htm</a></p>
<p>AND COMPARE: <a href="http://www.andover.edu/cco/matrics/default.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.andover.edu/cco/matrics/default.asp</a></p>
<p>Byerly I am just curious as you have facts on your finger tips that still amzes me. By the way thanks for helping for guiding the summer program. We have so much appreciation for your free but extremely valuable guidnace. May God Bless you :)</p>
<p>Byerly: on the ball for the most part and I'm not going to contradict too much of what you said because it makes my school look good (and it's true). Two minor details though.</p>
<p>1). 18 guest students were not all seniors.
<a href="http://www.andover.edu/news/TeamEffort.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.andover.edu/news/TeamEffort.htm</a>
(it's only implied there but that's the best I can do on short notice, if you need absolute proof of them being not all seniors check the Phillipian). </p>
<p>2). 19 to Harvard :)</p>
<p>I'm impressed with your fast facts as well. Good looks.</p>
<p>None of this info contains links, so some of it is dubious (particularly the Exeter numbers).</p>
<p>The Exeter numbers (for 2006) come from the Exonian (not online) although the cumulative matriculation totals for 2002-05 <em>are</em> online.</p>
<p>The Andover matriculations for 2001-06 are online, and a link has been posted.</p>
<p>The Andover 2006 app/admit numbers come from the Phillipian, April 28 edition.</p>
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<p>I note the increase in the reported Harvard matriculation number from 18 to 19, and the increase in the reported Yale number from 8 to 13. Unless these were just clerical errors, I assume the changes are due to waitlist action.</p>
<p>The reported changes increase Andover's matriculations at the Ivies + 3 to an even 100 - about 1/3 of the total matriculations for the class of 2006.</p>