Help! Academic Dismissal ]=

<p>I was academically dismissed from my first college I attended ( a CA CC.) (08-09)
my record:
4 -F's
4 -W's
over a course of 2 semesters at the community college.</p>

<p>I petitioned to be let back in with a probationary period but they denied me and I stand at a 0.00 GPA currently. My reasons for doing so poorly my first year was due to personal, economic, and family issues and I stated that but they still didn't accept my petition. </p>

<p>So here's my main question:
How badly will my poor choice in life affect my admission to a 4-year college down the line?
How does the GPA average out... etc. If I maintain an A-B average in the classes I take in the future will my gpa ever be good enough to get into a good 4-year?</p>

<p>I applied to another local SoCal CC for the time being--looking to complete a certificate program for hotel management then transferring to a local CC-cuny in New York.
I wanted to hold a certificate and I was planning on moving straight to NY and just entering into the school system there immediately but I did some research and no schools offered the kind of certificate I wanted in new york so I have to attain it here in california.</p>

<p>I want to know if that is a good idea or if I should just try to go straight to a CC in new york. </p>

<p>Does going to more than one community college hurt your chances at a good 4-year? (I was looking at transferring to NYiT since NYU seems to be out of the question for me.)</p>

<p>It’s unlikely that you’ll be able to get into a 4-year college now, so your best bet is to go to a community college, do very well in a curriculum that will allow you to transfer to a 4-year college, and then transfer. With high grades, you should be able to get into a good 4-year college.</p>

<p>thanks for your reply (=</p>

<p>I hope I can redeem myself and show that I’ve grown. I did well in highschool, it was just this first year in college that stumped me among other things. I’m saddened that my record will haunt me my whole educational career though.</p>

<p>you can enroll at a different CC and pretend it never happened.</p>

<p>If I remember correctly you are required to present all transcripts from accredited colleges.</p>

<p>some schools allow you to retake the same class and it replaces your f</p>

<p>also, you can’t “act like it never happened”</p>

<p>all transcripts are required for transfers</p>

<p>Maybe you might want to get a job for a while, a year or so, and then talk to the people in admissions, etc…work really hard so that your supervisor can recommend you, and then see what can be done. School is not the only path, and it isn’t a direct path, and you will be able to get back in over time. Plus, giving yourself a year or two, you will have a better chance. Right now, due to economic contraints and a massive population bubble, the education system is really overburdened. This will not always be the case. Good luck to you.</p>

<p>he can start over and say he’s never enrolled in a CC. there’s no international “transcript police.” it’s not like it’s a C record that at least provides some credits. it’s a useless 0.00 gpa.</p>

<p>Consider military service.</p>

<p>Explore tech schools as an option. Many of these are open admission and could give you a chance at academic redemption.</p>

<p>“he can start over and say he’s never enrolled in a CC”</p>

<p>If the deception is found (which could be easy if student loans were used) then OP would be expelled. Time to find a moral compass CR.</p>

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<ol>
<li>That’s why cash is the best. </li>
<li>Only my friends are allowed to call me CR.</li>
<li>Your personal beliefs =/= everyone else’s beliefs.</li>
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<p>I’ve already looked into my options, I really don’t want to wait on my education because I’ve finally decided what I want to do in life. I took half a semester off and I was working but I got laid off because the place shut down which prompted me to make the decision that I really needed school and I wanted to get into the hotel industry.</p>

<p>I’m not for the “pretending it never happened” thing because I don’t want it being found out later and my degree taken away for academic dishonesty.</p>

<p>I’m enrolling in a different CC now since my previous has denied any of my attempts at readmission ]= I just hope I can get into a good 4-year later.</p>

<p>How does gpa averaging work? do they take all your transcripts and combine them into a final gpa? I don’t understand how that works.</p>

<p>I would also like to know how gpa is calculated. I started at a four year college in So Cal but had a bad year. I took a year off and worked, then moved out of state and have been at a CC. My grades have been good. If I apply as a transfer and provide both transcripts will my gpa be calculated from both schools? I repeated coursework at the cc, so would that replace the old grade given that it’s from a different school? Also, what happens when applying to grad school? Does the first bad gpa still get calculated into the grad school application?</p>

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You listen to posts like this at your own peril …</p>

<p>If any future college catches you not being honest about other schools you’ve attended after you’ve been accepted or enrolled they’ll revoke your admission or kick you out. And if you apply for any financial aid then you’ve signed statements that you’re telling the truth in your app; the local DA tends to take a dim view of people submitting falsified documents. Having a criminal record means some jobs will be permanently closed for you; you won’t be able to get admitted to the bar to practice law, and since criminal records are public any future employer that looks as part of a background check will find out. Which may all be a moot point; if you can’t get admitted to college after your fraud is discovered, you’re a lot less marketable as a person with just 1 year of college instead of a BA.</p>

<p>Now I’m sure your thinking (just hypothetically, I’m sure) “gee, how could college number 2 possibly check with every other college and catch me?” Turns out its really simple for a college to check. There is a company <a href=“http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/[/url]”>http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/&lt;/a&gt; set up to provide exactly this information. It’s routine at most colleges to check for various reasons; they have to check to see if you’re eligible for financial aid and how much you’ve already used, they check to catch students who “forget” to list a college, etc. They list as a sample use of their service detecting exactly the type of fraud you’re considering under their StudentTracker service, and it only costs 5 cents a student to check.</p>

<p>As for advice to the OP, if you can find a hotel/hospitality program at a CA school, many CA schools have “articulation agreements” that guarantee admission if you maintain a certain GPA. You might want to check what the rates are you’ll pay at a NY CC; it may be financially better to take classes in CA.</p>

<p>I know financially it would be better to stay in cali for school but I have my heart set on new york as I’m planning to move there permanently anyway. The cheapest CC in NY is La Guardia so I was just going to go there and work up from there.</p>

<p>As for the dishonesty thing, I did a lot of research and I’m not about to put myself up to being barred from college for lying or getting my degrees rescinded so…yeah.</p>

<p>My question about how gpa is averaged still stands however if anyone can answer that one.</p>

<p>I know my sister didn’t attend class for her second semester of University, but forgot to withdraw from those classes (kind of dumb, as she paid to hurt her GPA and scholarship). She transferred to a CC, and they wiped her GPA clean, AND she was able to transfer her 1st semester credits from the university onto her transcript. I don’t know how it works in Cali, but you want to talk to counselors to figure out how it all works.</p>

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<p>CUNY- City Tech offers both a 2 year and a 4 year degree program in hotel mananagement</p>

<p>[City</a> Tech - Hospitality Management - Programs](<a href=“http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/academics/deptsites/hospitality/programs.shtml]City”>http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/academics/deptsites/hospitality/programs.shtml)</p>

<p>If you move to NYC, then you will have to obtain residency to get in-city tuition.</p>

<p>If you cannot enroll in another CC, then perhaps you talk to the admissions dept about applying as a non-matriculated (non-degree student). You will still have to disclose that you were academically dismissed at your first school but going non-matric will allow you the opportunity to build a set of grades and show the school that you really have turned things around. The only down side is that you may not be eligible for financial aid (which you probably would not be eligible for any way because you were not making progress toward a degreee).</p>

<p>That not bad compared to mine I have like 7 f a d 2 a 1 b a c and 4 w</p>

<p>everyone should be given another chance</p>

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