Help! What should I do now? UCR/Cal States/Community College/Appealing

<p>This may be a very long post and I quite apologize for that.</p>

<p>Overall GPA: 4.0 Weighted
SAT Score: 1930. Super Score would be well over 2000.
SAT 2 Scores mediocre.
Various extracurriculars and leadership positions.
Over 500+ hours of community service.
- Volunteers weekly at church, volunteers every year during city functions, etc.
Applied to a few UC's and expected to get into UCI, but was rejected.
I am wondering if I should appeal and what would be the best way to go about the process. UCI was my top choice and I would honestly love to be there.</p>

<p>In terms of appealing: I was mildly affected by my father losing his job during my sophomore year. It had a short term emotional effect upon me and stressed me greatly. However, this did not carry on for a significant amount of time as we did not end up losing our home or anything of that sort. Other than that I really have no new information, except that I have perfect grades during senior year (first semester and still maintaining all my grades, even raising my percentages) - 4.8 Weighted GPA.</p>

<p>Would it be silly of me to simply appeal in hopes of getting on the wait list?</p>

<p>Also, is it possible to ask for reconsideration of my application under a different major?
I originally applied under the major of Political Science. I would love it if I could be reconsidered for the Political Science program there but English and History suit me just fine :]</p>

<p>If appealing does not work out:
- What would be the easiest way to transfer from a Community college, Cal State or from UCR?
- What steps would I need to take to ensure that I have the best chances possible in transferring into UCLA/CAL?
- Does anyone know the strength of UCR and Cal State programs?
- How do you apply to community colleges?
- How do prereqs work?</p>

<p>Lots of questions! Sorry!!</p>

<p>Thank you so much for your time :]</p>

<p>You can try appealing, but admissions receive many reasons like yours and they no longer care about your “hard-life”. </p>

<ol>
<li>Community College transfer is the easiest, they offer TAG</li>
<li>You want to transfer to UCLA/CAL? Finish all your GE and your major lower-division with a +3.6 GPA to be competitive</li>
<li>UCR and Cal States programs are good, its what you do with your Degree that counts. Don’t expect all you need is a piece of paper to get you a job, you need experience so do internships.</li>
<li>To apply to community colleges, you go to their website and apply.</li>
</ol>

<p>Thank you for your help, lawlking :]</p>

<p>Another question: Is it easy to transfer from UC to UC?</p>

<p>Nope, it’s harder unless you have a really impressive GPA.</p>

<p>For example, let say you went to CC and want to transfer. As long as you complete the GE + Major prerequisites and maintain a MINIMUM of 3.0GPA then you’ll get accepted to UCI, UCSC, UCD, UCR, and UCM. If you want UCSB then its a 3.2 GPA minimum and UCSD is 3.5 GPA minimum for guarantee transfer.</p>

<p>A person who does UC to UC transfer is doing 100x the work for the same result when another person goes to a community college and transfer to a UC.</p>

<p>Hey, I’m sorry you didn’t get into UCI, but transferring in two years would be a great alternative. LA and Berekely is easier to get into with just a strong gpa (preferably 3.7+) and finishing all your pre-reqs and IGETC. If you have a bunch of AP credits, you can even transfer in one year. What’s important is starting now–planning, applying, etc. Since UCI is your top choice I would really recommend against settling with a lower UC or a Calstate. Oh, of course, and the TAG guarantee :D</p>

<p>No, they won’t care that you are getting better grades, I think they even say that on their websites or something. Read Ms. Sun’s UC admissions blog.</p>

<p>And if you say you want to be considered for another major, it will be a red flag that you care about just getting in and not passionate about a particular field of study. Say why you are perfect for the particular school and major, and what they can do for you.</p>

<p>As for community college transferring… it’s getting harder to complete IGETC in 2 years but it’s possible to land the classes you need to transfer somewhere nice. You are given priority if you are accepted for TAG admission. This option makes UCs more affordable. Also, out of a community college you can technically transfer to any school that accepts transfer admissions. Some people try for Stanford, Harvard, Yale, etc - but they only accept 2-3 community college students per year. There are a ton of really good private schools that accept more, like: Emory, Duke, USC, Vanderbilt, and Cornell.</p>

<p>Also, you do not want to do a UC to UC transfer. A lot of people get overwhelmed that first semester while learning how to college, and you will only have a few semesters under your belt before you can transfer. Also, UC transfers are considered after California CC students. Even if you get a 3.5, someone with a more easily attained 3.5 from a CCC will be given priority over you. Also, if you are planning on transferring, just go to a CC. UC to UC transfer means you pay 4 years and you end up getting the same degree as a CC to UC transfer.</p>

<p>Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions so far, you’re wonderful :]</p>

<p>I’m leaning towards a CC now… only thing I’m worried about is not being able to get the classes. I’ve been getting so many mixed responses - some people say it’s easier for UC students to transfer, others encourage me to go to a CC. </p>

<p>CCC are given priority over UC students, and UC students over CalState students for UC transfers?</p>

<p>Here, it’s common knowledge that a cc to uc transfer is easier than a uc to uc transfer. We get priority (this is a fact) and you save money (to most of us this is a fact) too. The road is simple. Difficulty depends on your classes, but the steps are easy to follow and understand.</p>

<p>The only things you should worry about are keeping your GPA up and getting classes. Yes, it is getting harder to get classes. There are budget cuts and more people seem to be going the cc route. </p>

<p>Not sure about CalState transferring.</p>

<p>They’re discussing the uc to uc thing here:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1110031-uc-uc.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1110031-uc-uc.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thank you so much dear! The link is a great help :]</p>

<p>CC is what you make it. If you work hard and commit yourself UCLA/CAL/UCSD are strong possibilities. The problem is that it may take you more than 2 years…especially if you are a science major because you have so many prereqs to complete. </p>

<p>If you want the college experience without the “name” I would go to one of better known Cal states (Cal Poly, Chico) and just make the best out of it(dont transfer out). Theres a good chance you will find them pretty easy and graduate with a higher GPA than you would at UCSD which is known as a gpa killer.</p>

<p>But of course with the abundance of transfer housing at the UCs…you can still get most of the “college experience” even as a transfer. </p>

<p>The only thing I dont recommend is going to UCR in hopes of transfering out…that is not a wise game plan (it will stress you out big time).</p>

<p>Hi there,</p>

<p>I’m currently a second-year community college student and i’m fascinated by how similar we are on so many levels. I was a 3.98 weighted in high school with multiple APs and a 1950 SAT1. Our ECs are different but in terms of amount of hours we aren’t too dissimilar. I also applied in HS as a PoliSci major but am currently a History major. Hopefully my advice will be useful since our situations seem so similar.</p>

<p>When I was in your situation, I had a few somewhat passable but overall inadequate excuses that i considered using to appeal. I eventually decided not to appeal since I realized that I was just grasping at straws and didn’t feel that I had a true reason for them to change their mind about my entire admission decision. If you feel that way too I would suggest not appealing.
Furthermore, I think you are setting the bar too low with Irvine. In my experience, students in our range tend to dominate in CCC, giving them the opportunity for UCB, UCLA, or basically whatever else they want. If you are like me, you are probably surrounded by a bunch of geniuses in your AP classes who are off to UCB straight out of HS and don’t think you can compare yourself to them. In my opinion, college favors a different type of student. Whereas in HS, the math and science classes separate the creme from the mediocre, CCC puts good writers on a more even field since you don’t need to take more than a handful of math and science classes total depending on your major.</p>

<ul>
<li>What would be the easiest way to transfer from a Community college, Cal State or from UCR?</li>
</ul>

<p>CCC is by far the easiest way to transfer. CCC students are given more priority than UC or CSU transfers. With coming budget cuts across the state and the possibility of greater competition in admissions, this makes all the difference. Additionally, I have heard of people from places like UCR with 3.7s trying to transfer to UCB and getting rejected. While this is purely anecdotal evidence, it serves to illustrate how much more difficult it is to transfer up from a CSU or UC.
Also, people often underestimate the difficulty of the freshman year at a UC. A number of factors often cause people’s grades to be low enough to irreparably destroy their chances of transferring to UCB or UCLA. Grading based on bell curves, a relative lack of teacher support (some classes will have hundreds of students or be taught by TAs), being tempted into partying too much, not adjusting to college in time, a sudden change/absence of support groups, etc. can contribute to this.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>What steps would I need to take to ensure that I have the best chances possible in transferring into UCLA/CAL?
If you are going the CCC route, then the main priority is to get good grades in all required pre-req classes. Most colleges have “tricks” for getting this done. For some, it is joining the honors program to get priority registration. For others it is going to orientation or talking to counselors. You just need to figure out what the “tricks” are at your campus. Also, there are programs such as TAP and TAG that you should look into. These are discussed all over cc.
Note that when transferring from a CCC, only UCB, UCLA, and UCM look at anything besides grades and pre-req completion (UCD and UCSD might change that soon though). ECs and personal statements aren’t even read by anyone (currently) at any UC except these three. Even at UCB and UCLA, you can be admitted to your type of major basically on grades alone. ECs help, but not at the expense of your GPA. So in summation, the best way to ensure admission to UCB/UCLA from ccc is to get amazing grades, even if you do almost nothing else. If you do want to give yourself a leg up, join student government. It could benefit you in ways you would never imagine. If you want more info on that please pm me.</p></li>
<li><p>Does anyone know the strength of UCR and Cal State programs?
Can’t help you much on this one, but once again, I think you are aiming too low with UCR or Cal State (unless you want to be a teacher, nurse, voc tech, etc. for which the CSUs were mainly intended and created for)</p></li>
<li><p>How do you apply to community colleges?
Most CCCs are very simple to apply to. Just go on their website and look for the big “register here” button. You don’t need to provide much information and you could probably complete it in less than half an hour. No essays or anything required. If you are going to apply I recommend you do it ASAP and try to do any orientations or events they have. Many CCCs required things like transcripts, AP scores, and an assessment tests. The earlier you get this done, the better. I’d like to note that you could technically register while waiting for a response from an appeal. I don’t think it would cost you anything extra and would give you flexibility if you receive a positive response.</p></li>
<li><p>How do prereqs work?
Go to assist.org and look up the CCC you would be going to and the UC you have in mind. On the right hand column it will say all of the pre-req classes that are available for you to take at your CCC (this is super important). Additionally, try to google the IGETC agreement that your CCC has with the UCs. Most CCCs have similar IGETC agreements, but some CCCs have certain differences that make it worth checking out. As a PoliSci/History/English major, IGETC is not as important as major pre-reqs, but it should still be completed ASAP, especially since some of it will overlap with your pre-req classes and is useful in planning out your classes.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>I’d like to note some of the negative things about CCC.
If you are truly bent on getting the “college experience,” don’t look to CCCs to give it to you. There are ways to meet interesting people who will become life-long friends, but you definitely have to be much more proactive to find these people.</p>

<p>The CCC budget situation is currently being debated in Sacramento. Tuition was recently raised for sure. The possibility of the so called “all cuts budget,” which would mean over a billion dollars in cuts and a massive (more than doubling) tuition increase is very much on the table and is looking more likely every day. This translates to widespread cutting of classes and adjunct (part-time) faculty. </p>

<p>[District</a> Budget Impact](<a href=“http://www.ccleague.net/district-budget-impact/]District”>http://www.ccleague.net/district-budget-impact/)</p>

<p>This link can help you figure out exactly how your CCC district might be affected (the “all-cuts budget” is the third option, June Tax Package Fails and Prop. 98 is Suspended). Either way, classes will be really tough to get your first semester or two. If you are very proactive, however, you can probably figure out the “tricks” at your CCC with enough time to be able to start getting most of the classes you need by your second semester or summer.</p>

<p>Lastly, I was wondering if you had a particular career in mind. If you say law i might explode from the coincidence.</p>

<p>Thank you all for responses :]</p>

<p>Damn 4.0 and over 1900 SAT and rejected from UCI?? Ouch. Did you apply to other UCs?</p>

<p>Yes I did, I applied to UCLA, UCSD, UCD, and Cal, in addition to UCR.</p>

<p>I was rejected from all, waitlisted to UCD, admitted to UCR.</p>

<p>What I’ve learned from this experience is that it’s always good to have an alternative route, and that despite things not working out the way I’ve originally planned to go, things will work out in the long run.</p>

<p>Verity I was in the same boat as you in the fall of 2010. 3.72 Gpa, 2120 SAT, rejected from cal and ucla. Accepted to UCI and UCR, decided not to go because I was chasing a dream. Its UCLA and I won’t stop till I get it. I currently have 4.0 and need to survive a second semester and I’m golden.</p>

<p>@UCHopeful12: Are you currently at a CC?</p>

<p>@verity, Yes I am. Its going great so far, but I think after the budget cuts I might not transfer in time since I was really depending on the summer class to finsh some pre-req. Hopefull Brown can find a solution to all the problems soon.</p>