<p>The School of Business is NOT AACSP-accredited and is NOT in a position to be AACSP-accredited.</p>
<p>The school HAS ZERO Ph.D.s in Accounting on their faculty. The School of Business “Dean” has a Ph.D. in Business Education, NOT a a content area such as Accounting, Management, Marketing, I.T. (This “Dean” is barely employable because he holds this degree of this degree. If he is dismissed, he probably will not be able to get a job at a community college.)</p>
<p>The Chair of the Accounting program has an MBA, his highest level of education.</p>
<p>The School of Business IS accredited by ACBSP, the same body that accredits the University of Phoenix online.</p>
<p>My S will be a junior this year at HPU and he has had amazing faculty support. He likes his professors (studies Communication). My niece is also at HPU and she is a business student. She has interned with a national financial firm and I know she has talked about meeting several business owners and CEO’s in some of her classes. I watched a presentation by a recent graduate who started his own clothing line and I was really impressed with his demeanor and product. He’s won a couple of business plan competitions. From all I’ve seen, faculty are good teachers and provide support to these students.</p>
<p>My best professors in the business school have been adjunct professors who currently run their own business, or work for a big company. When I am “rating” a professor, I pay attention to the quality of what I’m taught and how much I walk away with. Not once have I ever said “that was a great class, but my professor didn’t have a PHD, so everything I learned must be worthless…”. Personally, I’d rather have a professor that can teach what really happens in business rather than some PhD who’s never seen a day outside of the classroom. I am entering my senior year and I highly recommend the Business Program at HPU. The balance of real world learning every single day has been useful to me already, as I have already completed two internships. </p>
<p>The attack on the Dean is shocking to me. I have also had him as a professor in a personal finance class. He was fantastic. Huge asset to the business school. </p>
<p>Anyone interested in the business program at HPU should really consider taking the time to talk to some professors and some student in the program when they come to visit. That made my choice MUCH easier back when I was picking a University.</p>
<p>@Rick… wow… I did not even realize or thought to ask about the school’s status with the AACSB. I don’t think anyone is saying there are not good professors out there just because they don’t have a certain degree. However, the AACSB is a true measuring stick of a business school and how the degree is perceived by the outside world. My D looked at the university of tampa… a very small yet lovely little school. The school itself was not very difficult to get into however they were very proud of this standard they met. there are 648 schools on this list and it is something that does validate a business program. (kind of like a toothpaste being given the ADA seal of approval. lol) </p>
<p>Rick, why is it that High point will not be in line to get such a status with it’s business school? Just curious why they would not or could not rise to the level to attain it?</p>
<p>I was happy to see the business school my D will be attending does have the acredidation. </p>
<p>@RickPhD after looking for 2 minutes on the HPU website, I just wanted to clarify your post:
There are 2 PhD’s in accounting - Dr.Premalata and Dr. Roberts. Dean Wehrley’s PhD is in finance. Finally, HPU is accredited by the AACSB (Im not sure what you were referring to with your ACBSP group.<br>
I’m sure these were just several oversights you made honestly. Thought you, and the others on this thread, would appreciate the clarification.</p>
<p>Dad4411, you are correct. Thanks for looking up the real facts. </p>
<p>Only one thing to clarify. The business program is currently a member or AACSB, and working toward accreditation. Accreditation can take 3-5 years when restructuring is needed. Students of the business schools (including myself) have been told HPU will work toward it over the next couple years, while trying to avoid firing professors just because they don’t meet the AACSB standard (even if they have been at HPU for years). </p>
<p>@RickPhD-Please keep in mind that HPU has been going through rapid growth over the past few years. Rome wasn’t built in a day. The school has been doing an excellent job bringing in highly qualified professors to keep up with the growing student body. HPU’s business school was hardly on the map a 7 years ago. Now it is hosting high ranking CEO’s and renowned business speakers year-round. It will take time, but the PSB is continuing on its way to great things.</p>
<p>Caution: The School of Business is NOT accredited by the AACSP, the accredited body that accredits the top 25% of university business schools.</p>
<p>The School if Business IS accredited by ACBSP, the “second-tier” accrediting body that accredits many two-year community colleges.</p>
<p>The Dean holds a Ph.D. degree in Business Education as opposed to a functional area of business such as management, marketing, information systems, or accounting. Because he holds this degree, he most likely NOT be hired by an AACSP-accredited university if he were to be dismissed by High Point based on Nido’s aspirations to join the “best” business schools. Nido will probably dismiss him soon or “re-organize”.</p>
<p>In a response to a parents communication with him, Dean Whorley replied:</p>
<p>“That is correct. We are members of AACSB but not accredited. AACSB standards have a significant focus on research. We are an applied, practical, teaching-oriented business program. So, our culture has not meshed with AACSB standards. If you or your son would like to talk about our business program, please feel free to give me a call. Alternatively, if you would like to visit with me, we can set up a time to meet. In the meantime, if I can answer any additional questions, please let me know.” Dr Whorley</p>
<p>Sounds like High Point University currently houses a business school that looks and acts like a community college business school.</p>
<p>HPU is MEMBER of AACSP. The Phillips School is NOT AACSP-accredited. </p>
<p>Parents should have all the facts before they pay the price of a HPU education. </p>
<p>If parents choose to pay the stated price for a school of business that currently has accreditation from the ACBSP, the body that accredits many community colleges, then so be it. </p>
<p>Visit acbsp.org. ACBSP-accrediation, the “second tier” accreditation, probably falls drastically short of Nido’s lofty ambitions. </p>
<p>The AACSP and AACSP accreditation, the top tier accreditation for large “prestigious” schools, requires a high percentage of Ph.D. coverage. </p>
<p>EVEN WITH the two new hires, HPU is NOT, NOT, NOT positioned for AACSP accreditation. </p>
<p>RickPhD… I havent logged on here in months… but I see you have continued on your crusade against HPU’s business school. </p>
<p>I’ll keep this short and simple… As of a few months ago, I was informed that every graduating senior (not going to grad school) within my specific business major is now employed or self-employed. On a personal note, I can say for a fact that around 75% of seniors in my major had these jobs PRIOR to graduation. </p>
<p>I have friends who graduated from a few of your beloved AACSP institutions that can’t find jobs to save their lives. PF Changs, Chili’s, and Barnes and Nobles make up the list of where they are working, some for under $10 and hour… I’ve helped two friends recently to make them more marketable to employers, but I am SHOCKED at the weakness of their resumes. And I might add, these are very bright students. </p>
<p>The point? HPU Business students students are highly marketable to future employers because of the style of teaching within the PSB. The focus on real world learning, internships, ect are what sets students up for success. </p>
<p>Rick, if you are not happy with the lineup of professors at HPU, fine… but let’s get real. HPU business students are getting jobs and having great success post grad. After all, isnt that what college is for???</p>
<p>Exactly, some people put way too much credence in the ranking if a particular business school and the college themselves really emphasize how great their B school is. A recruiter wants to see experience, internships and decent grades. What can you bring to our company versus what a great B-school you attended. I graduated from Indiana U which has a very highly ranked Business program but accounting, econ, stats and Business law courses are basically the same content whether you graduated from Elon, UNC Wilmington, Northwestern or Turnpike Tech. It’s what can you do for me, not how high your school is ranked or accredited.</p>
<p>High Point University is a country club school for wealthy kids who are not admitted to top-tier schools of business that hold AACSP accreditation, in general. (There are exceptions.)</p>
<p>The school of business at High Point University IS accredited by the ACBSP, the second-tier accrediting body that accredits community colleges.</p>
<p>The school has hired two Ph.D.s in Accounting in response to criticism of the school’s weaknesses. (I’m sure Nido is fuming about the the fact that his business school is just okay based on evidence and lack of accreditation.)</p>
<p>If parents are willing to send their students to an expensive, pretty, posh school of business that academically looks and acts like a community college, that’s fine. This is a free-market economy. </p>
<p>However, parents deserve to know what they are buying.</p>
<p>Rick, were you rejected by High Point? Your “bottom line” take on HPU seems more resentful than helpful. Why post the same thing in the same thread over and over and over again? Besides your take seems to be a bad one. No one is confusing High Point’s business school with Wharton. But even a quick read of the US News rankings suggests that it is doing a good job for a lot of students who could not get into an Ivy League college, or, for that matter, Duke, Wake Forest or UNC Chapel Hill. High Point is serving another type of student. And for you to criticize those students and their parents for their decision is inappropriate.</p>
<p>Inquisitive-you said exactly what I wanted to. Not every kid can get into the top schools, or for that matter will work for the top firms where the accreditation might be an issue. My daughter is a freshman at High Point, and we are truly happy with the school. Rick, it is far more than a community college! The amount of resources offered, and the care the professors show for the students is great! Choosing a college is a very individual decision. If someone doesn’t like a school, then simply walk away or not apply. No need to insult those of us who grateful to have our kids attending such a great place!</p>
<p>LOL It’s quite amusing that Rick continues to ignore the RESULTS of HPU’s business school when it comes to job placement. HPU business students are going on to have great success post grad, and I can promise you we’re not letting our lack of AACSP accreditation stop us from competing for top jobs in competitive markets. </p>
<p>This isn’t the 90’s anymore, Rick! Businesses are asking “what can you do for me NOW” and I can promise you that going to a school that filled out the AACSP paperwork wont break your chances if you come to the table with top tier internships and experience. (And I might add, HPU students are getting AMAZING internships year around!)</p>
<p>Rick, your argument if outdated and tired. HPU is not for everyone, but it’s a great fit for many many students. Until there is proof that HPU business students are struggling to find jobs and have success, you’re going to have to come up with a new way to bash the program you seem to have a personal vendetta against.</p>
<p>Anyone would be fortunate to attend Highpoint.
It was near the top of our list until I received an email from them a month ago advising that 85% of the 2014 Freshman class had already been filled by early decision. I responded that there was little reason for us to try to get an acceptance from them.</p>
<p>Know what’s not outdated? An almost 10% student loan default rate. That means students cannot afford to pay off their loans. That is very high. Very very high.</p>
<p>Further I did some more research and HP’s peer schools all have default rates well below 10%. A new pharmacy school, athletic facilities and a $40m endowment do not add up. While I am sure the students are happy, the question remains whether they are learning amd being admitted to grad school. When I called on behalf of one of my students a couple years ago to determine their med school acceptance rate, none of the five people I spoke to would tell me. Every other school I have ever called has provided that information. They do not publish a CDS either. Why so secretive? Don’t try to get hard data on law school admits either. Tried that too; no luck. I have never found a school in all my years of counseling that was so reluctant to share information. That is disturbing.</p>
<p>Poulou, I do NOT believe it is correct that 85% of the 2014 freshman class is filled. If you look at the HPU Viewbook, only 25% of applicants are Early Decision. Another 60% are Early Action which is nonbinding, and it’s very likely that many of them will end up going to another school, since overall less than 25% of admitted students actually enroll at HPU.</p>