High School at Berkeley

<p>Hey, I am planning on doing an internship at Berkeley as a high schooler, and since I will be staying on campus I thought I might as well take a few classes there too. So I looked at the classes available, and I found three that interest me: Multivariable Calc(8-9 AM; MTWThF), Linear Algebra/Differential Equations(10-11; MTWThF), Physics 7C (kind of like one level past AP Physics C I guess from the course description, 9-10; MW). My internship is supposed to last 8 hours a day, and I am able to work it out with my mentor to fit the 8 hours whenever I want, so I was thinking probably around 11:30 - 7:30ish. So I would be back in the dorms by 7:30, and then do homework, and go to sleep. My math teacher thinks I am able to handle these subjects fine, but he is also a bit worried that it is too heavy. But I am a fast learner, and very steady, so I was wondering from your opinion, especially if you have taken these courses, if this is an acceptable courseload. My high school schedule was this: AP bio, APush, AP Calc BC, AP Comp Sci, AP Physics C (both), Honors Lit, Chinese III, TA, then after school robotics club programming. I have taken courses like AP Physics C level from a community college class, and I actually kind of like staying up late, I'm not sure if that's a good thing... Oh and about the times of the classes overlapping, it shouldn't be too much of a problem if the rooms are all pretty close to each other, and only MW will give me trouble since other days I don't have physics. So ya, any opinions would be appreciated.</p>

<p>holy smokes. You sound more ready than I am. You must go to a good school because I only have 2 AP classes that I can take this trimester, and I’ve taken 4 AP this whole YEAR. My school only offers 9, so I take classes at the local community college. You sound ready to me lol but I haven’t been there so I’d wait for someone else’s advice. That’s a rigorous courseload!</p>

<p>Tell us how that goes.</p>

<p>it will be hell. When I had a full time internship last summer, I did not want to go home and do hw after work. Much less go to class before work</p>

<p>Well AP Physics C does not count for Physics 7A and 7B, only 7A. And you have to get a 5.</p>

<p>Assuming you get a 5, you should take Physics 7B, which is what I’m taking this summer.</p>

<p>I also took Multivariable Calculus, Linear Algebra, and Differential Equations in High School, along with Physics C, and I’m suggesting that you take a maximum of two classes, (the former at a Community College, so not as difficult as UCB).</p>

<p>Coming from someone who was dead serious about triple majoring in EECS/Physics/Math, I’m saying that you will not enjoy that summer and you’re not going to have time to succeed at your internship (meet people in industry who maybe later will recommend you for other internships or jobs, etc…).</p>

<p>I’ve no doubt that you would be able to succeed at these courses, but simultaneously it will not be fun. I would take the 1 physics class and strive to get an A+, while doing really well at your internship. Alternatively I would take the two math classes and the internship (which is still pushing it).</p>

<p>I want to reiterate the importance of scheduling, especially the fact that you left out labs and discussion times making this schedule pretty much impossible.</p>

<p>First off the Lecture for Physics 7C is MTuWTh 11-1230P, then you will have 2 one hour discussions a week and 2 three hour labs a week. You picked one discussion meeting, which is hardly enough to succeed in a class.</p>

<p>Also the Multivariable Calculus Class you chose has a 1 hour discussion directly after it, every day of the week.</p>

<p>The LA/Diff-Eq course also has a 1 hour discussion every day of the week.</p>

<p>That is 6.5 hours a day in class if you don’t have a lab, and a total of 34 hours per week. Mix that with an 8 hour a day internship and you are in class/internship for 74 hours a week. That is insane if you think you’ll have time for homework.</p>

<p>So, my advice is to pick one class, and stick with that. You’ll probably have trouble with 7C and scheduling if you’re going to try and work afterwards, especially when you have a lab. If I had an internship I would just take one of the math classes and focus on my internship. Especially if it was something that you’re really interested in, you don’t want to be worrying about finishing a lab report, trying to get A’s, and succeeding at your internship.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>Go for it, if you feel so ambitious! :smiley:
Tell us how it ends up at the end of summer ^___^</p>

<p>Thanks Ramblinman, I guess I wasn’t very clear on the scheduling for the courses. So would taking the two math classes be ok? And would it be more manageble to take the courses at a community college there, because UCB classes are pretty expensive, like 1000+ dollars. But doesn’t 7B cover electromag, but Physics C already covered it o.o? Sorry for all the questions, hope it’s not too much of an issue.</p>

<p>Nerd alert</p>

<p>completely agree with Firapira</p>

<p>haha, thats what some engineers take during the normal sesmeter let alone during the summer…</p>

<p>pick one of those classes, that will be more than enough work with an intership</p>

<p>Stephen Wolfram himself would have given up, lost hope, and killed himself if he ever attempted what you are thinking about attempting.</p>

<ul>
<li>Take only one class over summer if you’re determined to take classes while you’re at Berkeley.</li>
<li>Don’t take 7C over the summer as a high schooler. Period.</li>
<li>Convince yourself that you’re mathematically mature enough to handle the subjects</li>
<li>You’d probably be best off with Math 54 but Math 53 is fine as well if you have a strong footing in calculus</li>
<li>Don’t do Linear Algebra and Differential Calculus together…unless you decide to take them at community college.</li>
</ul>

<p>So now I’m thinking of not taking the physics, and just taking the LA/Diff class and Calc D class since they are both 2 hour classes, so total of 12 hours work a day including intern. So say my day starts at 8, so 8-12 for classes, then lunch, then internship which I’ll schedule for 12:30 - 8:30. Then from 8:30 to 2 or 3 AM I’ll do homework. And I’ll have weekends to work too, b/c I’m not going back home over the weekends and no internship on weekends. I stay up that late normally and feel fine, so I don’t think this schedule will be an issue? But iono, I’ve never been to a real university before, could you please tell me how this schedule would work out?</p>

<p>And now that i think about it, physics 7C sounds bad because AP Physics Electro mag doesn’t cover thermo, which accoring to ucb physics series should have been covered in 7B, their electromag class… 0.0 So I would have to do major catchup work.</p>

<p>I see that you’re planning for no slack/procrastinating time. Are you the type of person who can function like that? If so…I wish you luck. Personally, I’d just take the internship and maybe a breadth course for funsies. If you’re set on taking a math course, I’d advise that you only take one. That’s already enough work. Why the rush, anyway? </p>

<p>What is the nature of your internship and how intensive is it?</p>

<p>holy **** (10 chars)</p>

<p>The intenship is a mechanical engineering internship, from what I’ve heard it’s pretty intensive, I mean 8 hours a day. And they make you write abstracts and present at the very end. I don’t think I can take a class for fun, since each class is over 1000 dollars and I really doubt my parents would let me take a class that’s not math/science related. I even kind of worried if they will pay for even one math class, sigh.</p>

<p>But here’s another option. I could tell Berkeley that I am willing to drive there everyday, which will take around 1.5 hours round trip, and instead take classes at community college back at home. Class time will be shorter, but on the other hand I’ll be wasting 1.5 hours one the BART or car everyday, and I tend to barf if I read on trains or cars… and I this Berkeley will be way more in depth that cc classes.</p>

<p>Ok do not take any classes at all.
There is no reason to. You already have way enough AP/college credit to be able to graduate in 3 years if you want.</p>

<p>In that case, I personally wouldn’t take classes, especially technicals. Place your efforts into your internship and have some downtime to chill.
Breadth courses in humanities/English aren’t entirely for fun–they’re required for your major (assuming you’re going into CoE).</p>