Higher Transfer #'s = Higher Competition?

<p>So I read an article on the UC website that was saying how there was a large increase in undergrad apps (especially transfers! I think by 17.6% or something insane like that.)
Does this mean it's going to be substantially more difficult to get into the schools that we want to get into, or with the increase of 500 transfer slots at schools, will it just be the same? </p>

<p>For instance, if you could get into, say, Cal with a 3.6 for philosophy, would that not even cut it anymore? That's not my major, but I'm freaking out now!!Lol</p>

<p>I guessI should say an extra good luck to everybody b/c I think it's gonna be rougher this year!!</p>

<p>Oh god lol I have a 3.57 and applying to Cal for philosophy…Now you’re making me even more nervous. Then again, I figured a 3.6 would still be fairly borderline for Cal phil anyway. Fortunately, I’m hoping my grade trend will do the trick for me. Good luck to you too jeremy.</p>

<p>yes, the average gpa for admission will definitely increase with the greater number of qualified applicants. you’re screwed 2 fold actually, you completed a bunch of your coursework out of state and the UC system REALLY dislikes that. I would’t count on CAL if I were you.</p>

<p>@sanity: Why am I screwed b/cI completed oos coursework!? I heard as long as you’re able to get community college status (30 units or +) you’re fine for priority admissions.</p>

<p>well GPA certainly does matter but cal takes a holistic approach so personal statements and EC are very important</p>

<p>The average GPA for admissions increases every year, sanity. However, I have read on here that the incoming freshman are the ones that will be most prominently hit by the increase in admissions. Transfer Acc. rate shouldn’t increase much more than it would have. Minimal would be my guess.</p>

<p>Jeremy, you’re fine. 30+ units is good for CCC status and the priority admissions.</p>

<p>good! :slight_smile:
btw–is anybody else going haywire over the cal supplemental info? B/c I have a lot of classes that’re not on assist.org (b/c they’re from oos colleges,) I’m confused on how to tell if they’ll transfer or not. ■■■!</p>

<p>As much as I like to believe Cal and UCLA are hollistic in their admissions selection, I would also say it is completely random in a way. There are in-state people with 3.9 gpas, prereqs done, and great ECs who get rejected. There are also others who have 3.3s, one pre-req missing and almost no ECs that get in as well. Just pray the admissions officer who reviews your application isn’t some biased nutcase.</p>

<p>Hey I have quick question. Does taking my transferrable Math class during the winter session put me in a position where I don’t get priority admissions? I remember in one of the threads posted by CalBear, he mentions that the UCs only look Fall grades and those before that. I’ll be IGETC certified by the end of Spring 2010. Thanks!</p>

<p>Ixr: I’ve actually spoken to a friend who says that he works with a guy who used to work in Cal’s admissions department. He says that L&S majors have to meet a series of minimum requirements, and those that do are then randomly picked and pulled. It sounds pretty farfetched to me, but interesting to hear anyways.</p>

<p>maybe we’ll be lucky and a lot of the applicans will have lower GPAs and essays that arent as good as ours</p>

<p>While this may look “catastrophic” at first glance, it is not all that insane as it appears. One has to put it in proper perspective.</p>

<p>True, there has been a huge increase (of 17.6% or whatever), but it is not all concentrated at UCB, UCLA and UCSD. Not only is the increase ACROSS all UCs, but from what I’ve read in the news sections of the UC website, the spread is very UNEVEN with some UCs having a much larger increase than others.</p>

<p>Besides this, luckily and perhaps surprisingly, the biggest jumps in transfer applicants have been at the “lower-end” UCs like Merced and Riverside!!</p>

<p>So, even though Cal, UCLA and UCSD have seen increases, they are much more modest at between 5 to 7%. The bottom line is, it is definitely going to be more competitive at the top UCs, but I don’t think it will be substantially more. </p>

<p>In fact, I can see the huge 32% increases in tuition/fees (which happened AFTER people had applied this year) being another factor in this whole equation. They might think of other more attractive options (financially), such as opting for the CSUs, which might appear as a far better “value”. For example, personally, I don’t care about places like CAL-POLY-SLO (I think it’s an “arrogant” piece of ***** place), but I know a number of my classmates (in my major-engineering) who think that place is the bees knees :). For some of them, for whom UCB and UCLA might still be their first choice, the prospect of significantly lower fees could well be what changes their minds!</p>

<p>Competition will not change for transfer students. Retention rate is still not high enough to warrant a real concern for transfer students. Less than 70% of the transfer students admitted actually end up enrolling. Better still, this is the only year that matters for you. Even if the number of applicants continues to increase it won’t make a difference to you. Perhaps to your children, but not you. Consider also that fact that most applicants have below average essays. Face it, most people can’t write. So if you work on your essay and execute it flawlessly, it wont matter who your competition is because you grabbed their attention an literally convinced them to admit you despite the competition. The personal statement is so important in that respect. Understanding how to pose an argument and use the proper style will put you ahead of the competition.</p>

<p>damn straight vintij</p>

<p>You see Berkeley can give out more acceptance letters and wait list letters because they know for a fact that not everyone will end up enrolling. They have leeway. Harvard, on the other hand, must give out exactly the amount of acceptance letters that they can fit because they know for a fact that 98% of people admitted will enroll. Get it? If 98% of people who were admitted to Berkeley actually enrolled, then the amount of acceptance letters would drastically be reduced to the true max.</p>

<p>vintij, that would make sense for freshman acceptances; however, Berkeley is the number 1 choice for most transfers so not many people will give up the opportunity to enroll at cal…</p>